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Location:

Las Vegas,NV,USA

Member Since:

Jan 13, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

1600M - 5:51 (Corp Challenge 2009)

5K - 19:38 (Tule Springs Stake 2009)

10K - 42:30 (Spectrum 2008)

Half-Marathon - 1:28:23 (Fontana 2009)

Marathon - 3:29:28 (St. George 2008, Monsoon)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Train well enough to run a BQ 3:15 marathon.

Long-Term Running Goals:

Continue to train well stay healthy and enjoy running for many years to come. 

Personal:

Married with 4 children ages 8-14.

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Nice start to the new year.  Wasn't sure if I was even going to make it out running on new years day but finally just sucked it up and went at around noon.  Nice run and fairly easy pace.  Ran outside the complex today and did the big loop up to my kids school and back.  Traffic was fairly light most of the way and the run was just the way I like it, uneventful.  Went to dinner with Meg and we talked about our new year resolutions for fitness and running.  We both want to shed some weight, (me about 20 lbs.) and I have a goal to stay healthy and BQ this year at St. George.  We also want to work on strengthening our core muscles by doing a good core workout each night before bed.  Should be and exciting and eventful year if all goes as planned.

Time:  8:18/mile

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Legs were a bit tired this morning and the run was a lot of work.  Still feeling it a bit from yesterdays run I guess.  One eventful item this morning was Megs Garmin 301 freaked out and clicked off 4 miles in a matter of about 10 seconds.  Even when we stopped it kept counting up the miles.  We both wear the 301 and hers is always behind mine at each mile.  I'm not sure why that is but it does seem to have its share of problems each day.  We may try calling tech support or try sending it back to Garmin for fixing.  So according to her 301, her fastest pace today was about 740 mph and she ran 7 miles in 21 minutes.....nice eh!

Time:  8:38/mile

Comments
From Clay on Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:51:57

We will have to start calling her the Bionic Woman... Nice job on the training too Jeff, you are doing really well, keep up the good work...

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Still feeling a bit worn out today.  Took it relatively easy and ran pretty slow.  Legs just don't seem to have any zip in them.  I think the holidays, time off and poor diet have been factors in helping me to feel so yucky.  Now that the holidays are over and I can get back into my usual weekly routine my hope is that the running will start to feel better.  Weather continues to be relatively mild here with todays temp at 41 and very light breeze.

Time:  8:39/mile

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Today was the best I have felt all week for a run.  Meg talked me into cutting the run short today and spending some extra time after the run stretching.  Seeing as how crappy I have felt all week I decided that it may not be a bad idea.  We ran at a fairly moderate pace for the entire run and then spent about 20 minutes stretching and I did some rolling and massage on my calfs and shins.  I actually feel rejuvinated and hopefully tomorrows long run will be a good one.

Time:  8:22/mile

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Nice easy long run today.   Skies were very cloudy today and the starting temp was around 52 degrees.  Needless to say, we were overdressed for the occasion so after the first five mile loop we passed by the house and I shed my coat.  All I had on was my SGM 2006 shirt and some sweats.  I would have like to been in shorts today but didn't feel like changing mid run.  Felt really good most of the way today and the except for the breezy weather everything was nearly perfect.  I would have liked to step the pace up just a little bit faster today but Meg was not feeling all that great so we kept it easy.  May run a couple more miles later this afternoon with Cory as he continues to prepare for the Painter's 5K in 2 weeks.

Time:  8:40/mile

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Got a little bit of a late start today so I decided to push the pace a little more than usual to get my 7 miles in before taking the kids to school at 6:40.  Didn't have much time to stretch before hand or after so I will spend some time this morning at work stretching.  Just took off and got going as best I could.  That first mile is always the toughest to get the breathing under control and find a semi-comfortable pace.  After 3 miles I had to stop in at the house for a bathroom break and then finished off the last 4 at a fairly decent pace well under 8:00/mile.  Weather was warm again today at 45 degrees and very little breeze.  I had to shed my top layer so I didn't overheat.  I was glad to shed a bit since it is nice to run without so much extra weight.

Time:  7:50/mile

PM:  Ran 2 miles with Cory in 20:02.

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Another standard 7 miler today.  Did get chased by a couple of small dogs for the first time in a long time.  When they catch you by surprise it really puts a hop in your step until you figure out that you could just step on them and crush them.  Probably not a good idea when the owner is out there though.  It really bugs me when peoples dogs chase me and the owner won't put them on a leash and can't control them.  People like that deserve to have there dog stepped on or kicked by and unsuspecting runner.  Anyway....it finally cooled off a bit today again....38 degrees.....so I didn't over heat today in my usual attire.  Felt pretty good throughout.

Time:  8:33/mile

Comments
From Clay on Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 14:20:38

I say step on them!!! I had the same thing happen to me this morning, but I just turned and yelled at the darn thing and it went wimpering in the cold dark morning...

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 14:41:29

I cannot wait for James to comment on this :-)

From JeffC on Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 15:05:02

Don't get me wrong, I love dogs and have a Min Pin of my own (talk about a dog you could step on). It's that element of fight or flight that gets me everytime a dog come bolting at me (which is actually pretty rare, thank goodness).

From Jon on Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 17:22:48

You should read some of James' stories. He gets attacked all the time by dogs, plus bulls, badgers, and ants.

From James on Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 18:23:50

I am not a very good person in situations like this, so don't follow my example. I especially get annoyed when the owner is there, and more annoyed when they think it is funny. I probably would have booted each individual dog until the last one and then hit the owner right between the eyes with his own dog. At least that is what I would attempt! You are a better man than I am to be so controlled.

From JeffC on Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 18:50:41

ROTFLOL!!!! Your post came at just the right time. I needed a really good laugh. Thanks James.

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Decided to pick up the pace this morning.  About a half mile into the run I was feeling really good and told Meg I needed to pick up the pace today to take advantage of feeling good.  She stuck with me for about another 3/4 mile and then decided to ease off a bit.  I tried to keep the pace around 7:30 for the rest of the run and most of my splits were just a few seconds shy of that.  By the last mile I was really working hard to maintain the pace.  I can tell I need to do more of this faster work if I am ever going to be able to maintain this pace for a full marathon.  My heart rate was higher than normal (for this pace) today too, I think my average for the run was around 173 when it usually would be in the 165 range.  Oh well, there are probably too many outside factors that effected the heart rate today like: the wind, overheating in my jacket, etc., to worry too much about the heart rate.  Overall it felt like a good effort and it's nice to get some faster miles in.

Time:  7:41/mile

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Decided to log a couple extra miles today since I didn't have to drive the kids to school today.  Took it pretty easy for most of the run.  Picked it up a little for the last few miles but all in all kept it easy.  Have a little twinge in my left knee this morning and I'm not sure what it is.  It didn't bother me at all during the run but now when I finished and now that I am sitting here at work I feel a little tightness just to the inside of my right knee cap.  I felt it ever so slightly yesterday too but it didn't really bother me at all.  Maybe with the miles building up my knees are starting to revolt.  It's a good thing next week will be a mini taper week for the Painter's half.  Maybe that will give it a chance to get feeling better.  Temp was 38 degrees again today and very very light breeze.

Time:  8:24/mile

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With the knee still aching a little and the time short today I decided to cut the distance but kept the intensity up a bit.  Don't know if that really helped or hurt but it felt good.  First four miles were around an 8:15 pace and then decided to pick it up hard for the last mile and ran a 6:30.  Weather was good and knee felt good during the run but is again a little tight as I sit at work.  It actually feels good to get up often and loosen it up a bit by walking around but going up and down stairs causes it to ache a little more.  The reading I have done seems to indicate that its a case of "runners knee" and that I should be able to run through it but that I need to cut the number of miles.  After my long run tomorrow I plan to taper next week for the Painter's half and then I will be starting the second week of Pfitzingers 18/55 marathon training plan which has the miles in the mid 30's for that week.  Hopefully that is enough of a decrease to let this thing heal.  Pfitzingers plan has you running 5 days a week for most of the plan and I usually run 6 days but maybe I will cut it to 5 as well for a while to see if that helps as well.

Time:  7:56/mile

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Fairly uneventful half.  Decided to do 3 miles at a sub 8:00 pace to test out my speed late in a run and also to see if the knee is going to hold up for next weeks race.  Good news is that both went well.  Felt like I could have gone faster and the knee seems to be holding up okay.   As I am sitting here typing this I have taken two doses of ibuprofen and iced, compressed and elevated today.  It still feels tight but doesn't seem too bad when I am running.  I will most likely take it very easy this next week and hope to alleviate some of the stiffness and soreness.  I think Pfizingers 18/55 marathon plan starts out the first week around 32-33 miles so that will be a nice cut back for me.  Let the training for Ogden begin.

Time:  8:23/mile

Comments
From Clay on Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 23:03:55

Nice job Jeff, I think you are going to have a great race next week, you have really worked hard...

From Jeff on Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 00:15:51

Thanks Clay. I am still a little worried about the knee though. I hope it comes around soon.

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Decided to give my knee another rest day since it is still tight.  I don't want to push it with the race coming up this weekend.  It is starting to feel a little better, thank goodness.

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Decided to give my knee another rest day but it is getting really close.  I may try to run a few miles tonight to see how it feels.

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Kept it pretty simple today with a nice three mile run.  Ran with Megs patella strap to see if that would help at all and it didn't seem to do a thing for the knee.  I had run with the strap last year sometime and remembered that is would always slip down my leg slightly and give no support to the patella.  Well that was pretty much the case today.  I wanted to give it a test under race speed conditions so I picked up the pace on mile 2 to 7:50/mile and mile 3 to 7:30/mile.  It was no good so I will probably abandon the use of this strap anyway for the race on Saturday.  Overall the knee is feeling a bit better and is not as tight as it has been.  I'm just afraid if I try to log too many miles it will tighten up again.  Good thing it's taper time and I could afford the couple extra days off.  A couple more easy runs over the next two days and I should be ready to go on Saturday.

Time:  7:59/mile

Comments
From Clay on Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 14:46:54

Good luck for Saturday Jeff, I think you will do great!!!

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Still resting the knee and also trying to recover from a Chiropractic neck adjustment issue that really had me worried but as I am typing this several days later I feel fine.  After the adjustment I ended up having some numbness on one side of my face and was thinking everything from nerve damage to stroke.  I was on the verge of going to the emergency room to have it checked out but you know how we men are and always put things off.  My face and neck are feeling fine now but my stinking knee is still stiff.  I don't think I will be going back to visit the chiropractor.......ever!!!

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Nice easy run in preparation for Painter's tomorrow.  Knee was still aching a bit but seems to be doing better and is less stiff.  I'm sure after painters I will be icing and popping the ibuprofen.

Time:  8:30/mile

Race: Painter's Half Marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:36:53, Place overall: 98, Place in age division: 15
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Well, things went much better than expected today.  The only disappointment I have is that I think the course was short by almost .2 miles so my adjusted time for the course would have been somewhere around 1:38....oh well whatcha gonna do??

I decided to start the race in the middle of the pack this year just so I was forced to hold back a little and not go sprinting out like I tend to do some times.  I was very pleased with my first mile as it came in right at my goal pace of 7:30.  My splits were all very even through most of the race except for a couple of miles that included some nice hills and steady inclines but my slowest mile was only 7:52 which included the steepest (but not very long) hill.  I felt very strong through most of the course but was a little gun shy to push the pace much beyond my goal for fear of overdoing it and then fading at the end.  My desire to hold back and stay with my game plan seemed to work well as I finished feeling strong and with a time that was right where I wanted it to be.  It's not a PR but for this course it is a 20 minute improvement over last year for me.  To run this pace on what I consider to be a very "honost" course I have gained more confidence in my ability to BQ this year if I can stay healthy and continue to improve my training.

Meg dropped out of the half to run the 5K with our son Cory and she finished in 22:22 which is a PR and good enought to take 5th overall and 2nd in her age group.  She earned a nice piece of hardware for her efforts (a baseball size diamond shaped trophy with all the info engraved on it).

Time:  7:30/mile

Comments
From Clay on Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 00:03:06

Nice job Jeff, I think you are on your way to a great year of running keep up the good work...

From Christi on Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 00:13:12

Great race! Congrats!

From Jeff on Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 00:51:11

Good job on the half. I like your name, Jeffs rule!

From Steve Hooper on Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 11:35:04

Good job this weekend - Keep up the hard work!

From Mark on Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 22:15:53

Awesome job on the race! Keep up the good work, you can get that BQ this year.

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Well today is when things start to get serious about training for Ogden.  I am going to give Pfitzingers 18/55 marathon training plan a try and see how it goes.  I will be modifying it somewhat because the first few weeks he has you running only 4 days a week.  I will continue to run 6 days a week but will look to decrease miles and intensity on his so called rest days.

The legs were a little bit fatigued during this mornings run but not nearly as sore as I expected them to be, in fact, not really sore at all, just a little tired.  Took it pretty easy as the knee is still a little tender.  I have started taking glucosamine and chondroitin again to see if that has any affect on my knees.  I stopped taking it several months ago to see if it really was doing me any good, apparently my experiment shows that I should keep taking it.  I originally started taking it not long after I started running because my knees were always bothering me.  When I eventually got back into shape I stopped taking it thinking that my knees had adapted and I didn't need it anymore.  Now I will start taking it again and if my problem goes away I will continue to take it forever.  I know the science is still a little weak in the area of the effectiveness of these supplements but I have had good success so I will probably keep using it.  One encouraging thing is that after a quick pit stop at the house my knee was not stiff when I started running again like it has been when I allow it to cool off for a couple of minutes.  Maybe I am on the downhill slope of this thing......maybe.

The weather was pretty nice this morning at about 43 degrees, almost too hot for my usual running attire.  I had to unzip my jacket to let some breeze in.  I guess I should enjoy the mild weather as I will be complaining about the heat before too much longer.

Time:  8:42/mile

Comments
From Clay on Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 22:33:07

Great job getting out today Jeff that is always hard after a race, especially a half marathon...

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Fairly easy five miles today.  Picked it up a little for the last mile but pretty much took it easy again today.  Meg had a friend come over and run with us this morning.  Her friend doens't run as fast as we do so we spent some of the time averaging over 9:00 miles.  I don't know if this will be a daily occurance but I hope not and I don't think Meg enjoys it that much either as she is working to improve her speed.  I guess we'll see how it goes.  The knee continues to be on the mend and seems to be feeling a little better each day.  Still a ways to go before we get to 100% though.  Weather continues to be nice at about 42 this morning and a light breeze.  We really haven't had the 1-2 weeks of sub 30 temps like we did last year, hopefully it won't happen and spring will come a bit early.

Time:  8:29/mile

Comments
From Mike Warren on Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 11:42:31

Jeff, great to hear from you! I will drop in on your blog time to time, hope you do the same. Thats cool you have a BQ goal in mind. I can't believe it's been almost 20 yrs since I last seen you! Holy Cow! where did all the time go? Good workout today, did you injure the knee or is it something that just keeps coming up? Let me know about it, I just went through the last year with a knee problem. I Finally found a couple of things that really helped, maybe they will work for you.

From JeffC on Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 13:27:03

It sure is a small world isn't it. The knee thing is not too bad. I think it will probably just go away as I continue to ice, take anti-inflamatories, and keep my miles in the 40/week range for the next couple weeks. I took a week off over Christmas (lazy) and then had two 50 mile weeks in a row and the knee started aching. 50/week is fairly new territory for me so my knee was probably just telling me to take it easy. It's on the inside of the left knee cap and feels pretty tight when I stretch my quads. It's not overly painful to run just kind of a distraction. It seems to be getting better so I am fairly sure that it is not serious. Whatever things you have that might help would be greatly appreciated.

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This is the first time I have ever done a 10 miler in the middle of the work week.  Had to get up at 4:00 am this morning in order to get done in time to get the kids to school and get to work.  Pfitzingers 18/55 plan calls for several of these mid week "longer" runs and I honostly think these will be a big help for my endurance or at least that is the theory.  Run went well and was able to maintain a consistant moderate pace throughout.  Run was supposed to be a general aerobic run and I am still trying to decide my best pace for these runs.  I imagine somewhere between 8:00 and 8:30 is probably about where I should be right now for this type of run.  Knee pain is still there but as usual is not really much of a hinderance when I run so I am still hopeful it is on the mend.  Another mild temp day at 39 degrees and very light breeze.

Time:  8:19/mile

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A rare wet and rainy day today.  We've been so spoiled with good weather lately that I guess it is about our turn to have something out of the ordinary.  Rain was coming down pretty good for the duration of my run and I came home soaked from head to toe.  Felt a little fatigued today and the legs just didn't want to get going this morning but I continued to push along at a decent pace and got through it.  Knee continues to be on the mend and moving in the right direction so I am encouraged by that.

Time:  8:19/mile

Comments
From Mike Warren on Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 11:26:08

Nice job, your like the postman, nor rain, nor sleet, nor snow! nothing stops you! Glad the knee is coming around. As your increasing your miles just keep it nice & easy for the most part. I went through the same thing when I started hitting the 70's. It took about 3 weeks, now my recovery is much faster. Keep it up and that BQ will be all yours.

From JeffC on Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 11:33:41

Ya.....me and Karl Malone.....Riiiight. Not so bad yourself my friend way to get out in the light snow flurries. Thanks for checking in on me.

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Took it really really slow today and just went for a run until the last mile when I picked it up to marathon pace.  Felt a little worn out this morning and since this was supposed to be an easy day I took it really easy for once.  The first four miles my average was around 9:20/mile and it felt really good to just run for the sake of running.  When I decided to shift gears and do my last mile at 7:30 I found it a bit difficult to get it into gear.  I had second thoughts about picking up the pace but decided to go for it anyway.  Sometimes that pace just feels hard and sometimes, like last Saturday's race, you feel like you could run that pace forever.

Time:  8:53/mile

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First half of the run was great today.  Everything felt good and the legs finally felt like they had a little spring in them.  After we stopped in at mile six for some gatorade we decided to pick up the pace for the second half of the run.  For whatever reason I had a really hard time getting the pace to stay in the 8:15 range and so ended up running most of the last half of the run at about 8:25-8:30/mile pace.  The second half of the run was very frustrating because I felt like I was working pretty hard and wasn't seeing the benefit (i.e. 8:15/mile) on the garmin.  8:15 has seemed like a tough pace for me because I hate working that hard and not seeing sub 8:00/mile on the garmin.  I think I can blame most of how I have felt this week on my relatively slow recovery from Painter's.  I don't think I should still be feeling the effects of the race a week later but maybe my recovery just hasn't caught up.  Tomorrows day off should help and hopefully I will be back to normal on Monday.  The knee wasn't a factor at all today during the run and I think full recovery is only a week or two away.

Time: 8:37/mile

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Lactate threshold run today and it would have been a perfect morning if it hadn't been for the wind.  The temp at the start was 48 degrees but the wind was pretty steady and a bit gusty at times.  Started out with a three mile warm up with Megan and then picked it up for the 4 mile tempo run.  Wanted to run these miles somewhere in the 7:15/mile pace but with the wind I figured it would be pretty tough to maintain a steady pace.  Splits ended up being 7:20, 7:19, 7:24, 7:21 for an average of 7:21 for the tempo section.  Not too bad considering the conditions.  I would guess that the wind cost me at least a few seconds on each mile so the 7:15 effort was probably there, just not the time to show for it.  Cooled down with one more mile and felt like the run was a success.  The knee continues to improve and although my back still bothers me from time to time it wasn't a big factor today.

Our stake had a preparedness fair last Saturday and I was approached by a couple of guys about joining their team for the Ragnar Wasatch Back Relay team.  I felt a little bad because it is a male only team and Meg would not be able to join the team but she was all for it and told me join up.  I still have to check my schedule but it sounds like a good time.

Time:  8:00/mile

Comments
From Clay on Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 12:10:38

Jeff, nice job with the tempo run, the wind was howling here to... Good luck with the relay team, I think you will do well!

From JeffC on Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 12:52:13

Thanks Clay. The nice thing about our wind is at least it was a warm south wind. I doubt there is anything warm up there in Utah right now. How is the toe doing? I don't think you mentioned anything about it today so I'm hoping it's doing a little better.

From Andy on Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 13:11:26

Nice job getting the tempo run in despite the conditions. That shows a lot of commitment. I know that I would have bailed on the tempo portion of the run.

From Clay on Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 14:18:15

Ya you know it is doing pretty good, today was the first day it didn't hurt during the run. It was a little sore when I got up this morning, but not to bad.

Keep up the good work...

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Nice and easy semi-recovery run from yesterdays tempo run.  Legs were only slightly fatigued this morning.  The pace was probably a little fast for a recovery run but I just tried to run at a pace that felt good.  I stopped taking the anit-inflammatories for my knee on Sunday night and the pain has not gotten worse so I am hopeful I will not have to continue to use the drugs and the knee will continue to improve as it has been.  The temperature was 15 degrees colder than yesterday at 33 so I had to go back to the full warm running gear.  Now that we are coming up on February, the warmer temps should start appearing since January is on average the coldest month for Vegas.  I look forward to running in shorts every day again but not the heat of summer.

Time:  8:25/mile

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Medium long run today at a general aerobic pace.  We went outside our usual neighborhood loop today and ended up dealing with a lot of traffic.  When we finished our first six mile loop and made it back to our neighborhood we ended up having a few close traffice encounters as well.  Just one of those mornings I guess.  Knee was a little sore the first couple of miles and then it loosened up and felt great the rest of the way and is still feeling great as I am writing this.  The weather is still staying a little cool with a temp of 35 this morning and a steady breeze out of the north making it feel a little colder than that.  Picked up the pace for the last couple of miles and ended up running the last mile at 7:50.

Time:  8:27/mile

Comments
From Mike Warren on Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 12:01:21

Jeff, nice run, good job getting out! Have you ever tried a deep tissue massage? I am just wondering if your IT Band is tight and causing some knee soreness. I have been getting the massages every 2 weeks (and I swore I would never get the first one). I have to admit, thanks to Steve Hooper, I decided to try it and it has made a huge difference. I am running more miles than ever with less problems. Anyway, just a thought hope all is going well for you.

From JeffC on Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 13:41:54

Thanks for checking in Mike. I have often thought about getting a massage. I'm afraid if I do it will become a habit that my pocketbook can't support. I may have to eventually break down and try it though. Thanks for the info.

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Word of the day is sssslllloooowwww!  We ran with one of Megans friends today who runs at about a 9:30 pace so we took it pretty easy today.  After our long run yesterday we decided it would be okay to have a nice easy recovery day.  After 4 miles her friend decided to head home and we picked it up for the last mile and averaged about a 7:45 pace.  Everything felt really good and talking and breathing was very easy with the heart rate under 140 at times.  The last day of the month brings the mileage total to 186 which is good enough for second on my all time monthly mileage.  My highest month was July 2007 when training for SGM with 193 miles.  I was injured in August 2007 right after my highest mileage month and I am trying to avoid that this year as February will be close to 200 miles.  The weather continues to be cold in Vegas with 32 this morning.  Thank goodness it is dry because I couldn't hack running on the ice.

Time:  9:09/mile

Comments
From Clay on Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 12:49:44

It was 9 degrees when I headed out this morning, 32 degrees sounds like sunbathing weather to me!!!

Good job this last month Jeff, keep working hard and you will be on your way to a great spring and summer...

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Kept a nice steady pace throughout the run today and it felt good.  It was almost scary how good the knee felt.  I was worried at the beginning of the week that I would need to start taking the NSAID's again but now by the end of the week things are looking up.  We pushed the pace a little more during mile 5 and we were just under 8:00/mile when the garmin gremlins struck and we went from 8:00 min pace to 8:30 pace.  We had to run about 15-20 seconds past our usual 5 mile finishing spot to hit 5 miles on the garmin.  Oh well, what are you gonna do (I usually mumble and grumble a bit and then get over it).  It just makes me feel like a boltushka (as Sasha likes to say).  The weather was nice again today with temps around 35 and no wind to speak of.  I'm looking forward to runnning with the group of guys doing the wasatch back relay tomorrow to kinda gauge myself.  I don't know how much of a guage it will be though because by the time I meet up with them I will have already run 8 miles of my 14 mile long run........long warm up I guess.

Time:  8:16/mile

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From Clay on Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 13:15:26

Where do you run it?

From JeffC on Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 13:35:25

The Wasatch back relay? or tomorrows training run with the group? I realize I didn't word it very well but tomorrow is just a training run here in Vegas with a group of guys who are doing the Wasatch back relay. The relay goes from Logan to Park City and is in June of this year. I think the relay follows some of the old back roads from Logan to Park City, never driven in that part of Utah.

From Clay on Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 14:37:51

How many guys are running on Saturday for the training run? Are they all from Vegas?

From JeffC on Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 14:47:39

There will be around 10 guys and they are all from Vegas. I think they are all in our stake but haven't met them all yet so I don't know for sure.

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Today was the big day to run with the wasatch back group for half of the run.  Meg and I got out by about 5:10 and got in 7 miles at an 8:35 pace, then I jumped in the car and met the group at the church for their 6 mile training.  Having never run with any of these guys before I didn't know what to expect as far as pace goes.  So we took off and I just tried to hang with someone in the 8:00/mile range.  Our pace for the run actually ended up being 7:43 average.  It was a little faster than I probably should go for a long run day but oh well, felt good.

Time:  8:10/mile

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From Mark on Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 19:43:26

That's always good to go out with some faster people now and then. You don't have to think about the pace, just hang with whoever you are trying to keep up with. Sounds like a great run.

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Great run today, everything felt really good and the quicker than usual paces didn't seem much work at all.  These days are nice to have once in a while, I would prefer them much more often but I will take them when I can get them. 

We woke up about 4:10 today so we could get our 8 miles before I had to take the boys to jazz band.  Turns out we didn't need to get up quite that early because of our faster pace.  My daughter came in right at 4:10 though with a bad dream so we decided to just tuck her back in and get going.  Lucky for us she usually just goes right back to sleep. 

We are following Pete Pfitzingers 18 week schedule with some of our own modifications and today called for an 8 mile aerobic pace run with 10x100 meter strides.  We ran our first four miles at and 8:10-8:20 pace and continued to pick up the pace in miles 5 and 6 which is where I started doing my strides.  My strides ended up being a little faster than Megs so I ended up leaving her behind for the rest of the run.  I didn't think the strides would take much out of me but with only 100-200 meters recovery in between each one I was pretty tired by the last one.  I don't know for sure how fast I should be running these but by the time I accelerate in the first 70 meters I am going pretty close to mile pace or faster.  At which point I kinda float for the last 30 and coast to a stop.  I guess the point of these is to maintain good form and stay relaxed while running fast in order to teach your muscles to run more efficiently at higher running speeds.  When I checked my Garmin at the end of the run my max speed during the run was 5:15/mile pace so I imagine that would have been the max speed of my strides.

Meg's friend Nan came with us again today but since we were running a faster pace we kinda left her in the dust.  We circled around behind her at a few points so that she didn't feel completely abandoned.  Is that mean to do?  I don't know.  We are pretty poor company for her since she runs a bit slower.  Thankfully she seems okay with letting us cruise ahead.

Time:  8:02/mile

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From Clay on Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:35:02

Nice workout Jeff, you are doing so well. I can't keep up with you anymore your darn fast...

From Jeff on Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:45:27

Thanks Clay. I don't feel fast but I hope I will be in better shape this year coming out of winter than last year. It feels good. Maybe if I keep my wife working this hard she will be able to pace me to a BQ. I always seem to run better when she is near.

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Cold and windy today.  Didn't feel real great for most of the run probably due to lingering fatigue from yesterdays run.  Took it pretty slow in hopes of having a nice recovery for tomorrows run.

Time:  8:43/mile

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Uneventful 10 miler today.  Stayed inside our neighborhood for the full run today doing 1.45 mile loops.  Nan joined us today again but since we were doing our usual 8:15/mile pace it was a bit to fast for her and so we ended up leaving her behind and looping back around behind her in a few places along the way to check in on her.  Everything went better than anticipated this morning.  I figured since I ate bunch of garbage after dinner last night that I might run low on energy today but I felt pretty good, probably just fatter.

Time:  8:15/mile

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Kept it really slow the whole way today for our easy recovery run.  Heart rate was in the low 140's and pace ended up being in the 9:30 range.  I still have a hard time keeping the pace slow on the easy days but after how I felt by the end of last week recovery wise, I am starting to see the benefits.  Keeping the easy days easy allows me to work harder on the hard days and get more benefit from the workout.  I would typically keep my easy days around 9:00/mile but we were with Nan again today and this is about her pace which is just fine for me after the 10 miler yesterday.  The weather is continuing to improve each day and we may see 60s for the high by the end of the week.  Spring is just around the corner for us here in Vegas.

Pace:  9:28/mile

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Picked up the pace today compared to yesterday.  Everything felt really good and I can almost say the knee is 100%, but not quite.  When I stretch my quads I still have very light tightness, I can live with that.  Picked up the last mile to under 8:00/mile so called it a fast one.  It was 42 degees this morning with a light south breeze.  If the temps are in that range tomorrow I will be running in shorts and loving it.  Gave the final word to the Wasatch Back relay team captin yesterday that I will be part of the team so it looks like I am in for sure.  We are the "Tule12."  Not much of a creative name, our stake is the Tule Springs Stake so we are the "Tule12."  Someone suggested we go with "The Quorum" and then the name "Quorum of the 12" was suggested.......lightning was seen brewing in the skies.  I look forward to coming up north in the summer and getting out of the Vegas heat for a few days, should be fun times.

Time:  8:17/mile

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Today was a 15 mile long run.  Felt pretty worn out by the end.  Legs were getting fatigued and lower back was tightening up a bit.  I can't wait to get back into marathon shape again over the next several weeks.  Despite the slower pace I was able to pick it up to about 8:10 for the last mile and it actually felt good for the legs to switch it up a bit and extend a little further.  Next week will be my first week over 50 miles since the second week of the year.  Should be a good challenge as the tempo runs and intervals start to come back into play over the coming weeks.  Ran in shorts and long sleeve shirt today because it was 47 degrees out, the high today is supposed to be close to 70.  It appears that spring is just about here but I imagine we will get another cold spell or two before it really arrives.

Time:  8:33/mile

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Tempo run today and of course it's breezy as usual.  Not as bad as the last tempo run but breezy all the same.  My last tempo run was 8 miles with 4 at tempo pace and my tempo pace was around 7:20 per mile with the wind.  Today I was shooting for 7:10 or better pace for the 4 miles at tempo pace, ended up being 7:06/mile.  Did a three mile warm up and then started the tempo.  Splits were 7:10, 7:05, 7:06, 7:04.  Felt pretty good until the last mile when my breathing got a little out of sync due to pushing a little too hard the first half.  I can tell that my lower back problems are creeping up on me again as the marathon training starts to get into the intense mode.  Hopefully I can keep it at bay this time around and not over do it again.  Started extra early today to get home in time to watch kids for a friend who is having surgery today.  Temp was 49 at the start but the breeze made it feel colder than that.  Sure am enjoying running in shorts again.

Time:  7:49/mile 

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From Mike Warren on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 11:29:30

Jeff, very nice run! Your tempo speed is very good and your miles are looking awesome! Keep it rolling my friend, speedy times are headed your way!

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Recovery day today with five miles at an easy pace.  My back was feeling better today and the legs still had some energy after yesterdays run which may be a good sigh.....either I am getting more accustomed to the routine or I didn't push hard enough yesterday.  During our run this morning we came upon a guy who had crashed on his moped on his way to work.  He was down laying next to his moped with what looked to be a broken leg.  He says he hit a rock while rounding the corner......that is why I will probably never own a motorcycle.  When a rock can put you to the ground I don't want any part of it.  I'll take the relative protection of my car thank you very much.  That was the only real excitement during the run as it was a run of the mill recovery run in preparation for tomorrows 10 miler.  Wind was blowing again today but the temp was 52 and it felt really good outside.

Time:  8:36/mile

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From Clay on Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 19:28:12

Ya I am one of the crazy ones with a motorcycle except mine is one of the bigger kind, 750 cc 2005 Honda Shadow, it doesn't do much good this time of year though...

Keep up the good work Jeff!

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Good moderate pace 10 miler today.  Weather was perfect at 46 degrees and no wind.  My legs felt pretty well recovered from the shorter day yesterday and Meg and I really did a good job of holding a nice steady pace today.  We had a couple of miles that came in right around 8:00/mile.  The knee is at 99 percent and the back is slightly better than average so today was a good day for a moderate pace medium long run.  Today I am signing us up for Ogden so I guess it will be official now.  I look forward to running more than just one marathon per year as I have done the past two years.  The other ones I plan to do this year include St. George and Las Vegas.  Supposed to be really windy over the next couple of days so I hope to get my runs in without too much problem.

Time:  8:12/mile

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Recovery run this morning and a good thing too because I was kinda hurting toward the end of the day yesterday.  I think I spent too much time sitting at work and didn't follow my normal routine of stretching and walking periodically through out the day.  I did feel better this morning but took it fairly easy and kept the pace in the slow range.  The wind really kicked up bad last night with gusts in the 50 mph range.  This morning the winds had calmed quite a bit so I was able to get out and log the miles.  Suprisingly everything felt pretty good except for some lingering fatigue in the legs from yesterdays 10 miler.  Meg didn't run today because her achilles is bothering her and I didn't want her to push it on a recovery day when she gets plenty of walking at school each day and that could serve as her recovery.  I hope the winds go away by Saturday.  17 miles in high winds does not sound fun at all.

Time:  8:45/mile

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From Clay on Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 16:20:56

Just thought I would let you know that I got 12 iches of snow at my house last night... Good job getting out today Jeff, I am going to try and get out after work I'm thinking the roads will be plowed and some what cleared by then!

From Jeff on Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 17:01:01

Clay, that totally stinks! Whenever our weather down here gets bad yours gets a lot worse. I hope the roads are plowed tonight for you run. Spring is on its way......hopefully soon.

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A half recovery half aerobic 5 miler today in preparation for the big nasty tomorrow.  Weather continues to be a bit cold and windy today but is supposed to be fairly nice tomorrow with light winds.  Everything felt really good today and the energy in the legs was up with no aches and pains to speak of.  So far I am liking the results I am getting from the Pfitzinger 18/55 training plan.  I was (and still am) a little leary of these 5 mile recovery days but I think for me it is working well or at least appears to be.  I find myself alot fresher for my hard workouts which allows me to work harder on those days to hopefully reap more benefits.  I think as time goes on those 5 mile recovery days could be extended to 6 or 7 miles but for know they are working fine.  Ogden will be a good marathon for me to test the results of this training.  If I can improve upon my 2007 SGM time of 3:39 at Ogden then I will feel confident that the training is working.  My current goal for Ogden is anywhere under 3:30 which should be doeable but we shall see.  With the elevation and less downhill I am not quite sure what to expect.

Time:  8:35/mile

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From Mike Warren on Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 19:32:14

Jeff, glad to hear your program is working. What is the max weekly mileage this programs get's up to? Also what type of training program did you use to train for SGM? It will be fun at Ogden this year. You are shooting for a BQ at SGM, why not give it a run at Ogden?

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What a fun and rewarding run today.  It was truely a confidence builder for me.  I planned to go out easy for the first 6 miles and run at about 8:45 pace.  The next 6 miles I would step it up to 8:15 or better pace and the final 5 I would crank it up to full BQ pace.  Every part of the plan worked perfectly and by the end I felt really good like I could keep going at BQ pace without too much trouble.  My splits for the last five miles were 7:40, 7:21, 7:22, 7:22, 7:18. 

Sometime during mile 14 my Garmin freaked out and recorded my mile at 5:28.  Luckily I was on a part of the course that I know the mile landmarks and was able to determine that the Garmin shortened the mile by about .25 and I was able to add the quarter mile to the end of the run.  If I only had to run 3/4 mile for every mile in the marathon I might be able to keep up with some of you elites......wishful thinking.

In the my past long runs I have relied on carbohydrate gels with water for energy.  Today, and on several of my past longer runs (including Painters) I have been relying on Gatorade only.  I find that it is easier to swollow than a gel and tastes better, I seem to get all the necessary energy I need (my body seems to process it well) and I won't have to pack those dang gel packs in my pocket for the marathon.  I need to see how my theory works on one of my upcoming 20 milers and make a final decision before Ogden.

Time:  8:11/mile

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Today begins a so called "recovery week" in the Pfitzinger plan so the total mileage for the week will be around 43 but I plan on running just as hard as any other week.  Today was no exception other than I slept in and got a late start.  Since it's president's day today I didn't have to go to work so I slept in and ran around 8:00 am in the light for once.  Since meg got up at the usual time and went with out me I was on my own.  I didn't feel real great for most of the run but stuck with it and got through it.  I still had some lingering back and hip pain from the Saturday long run and just didn't feel in sync.  Added in 8 100 meter strides which helped me to pick up the pace for the last four miles of the run to end up with a pretty good overall average for me.

Time:  7:58/mile

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Nice easy recovery run today.  Still a little achey in the lower back region but seemed a little smoother today than yesterday.  The pace of my runs seems to picking up without any extra perceived effort on my part.  I'll take that as a good sign.  Hopefully the "harder" running doesn't translate into more back trouble.  With this being a recovery week I am trying not to over do it too much, just maintain where I am before shifting gears for the next few weeks.  The weather here continues to improve with most morning temps hanging out in the 45-50 range.  I'm glad to be back in shorts (hopefully for good) since I don't own any running tights and the old slick sweat pants just don't do much for me.

Time:  8:19/mile

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From Clay on Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 17:34:29

I had two pairs of tights on this morning, its a beautiful thing...

Take it easy on the back Jeff, backs can be a pain.

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Today's run was a bit tougher than usual.  I agreed to ref a couple of church basketball games last night at 6:30 and 7:30 and it's been a while since I have run up and down the hard court.  I don't know why it is but my legs seem to get more fatigued running up and down on the wood than running on the pavement.  It may have to do with the shoes I wear or the wood or the occasional sprinting, or more likely a combination of all three.  All I know is that this morning I felt pretty beat up from the first mile all the way to the last.  The fact that I was able to maintain a decent pace I guess I can credit to my stubborn personality.  I expected to average at least 8:15/mile today so by dang I was going to do it.  The next couple of days are five mile days and one of those will be a slower recovery day so I hope to be feeling better over the next couple of days.  The back was also a bit tighter than usual this morning which I attribute to the reffing last night as well.  Maybe I will have to think twice about reffing again.  I don't much like listening to the know-it-all's anyway.......  Temp was 53 this morning with just a slight breeze.  The weather is supposed to get rainy over the next couple of days, should be fun running in the rain.....not.

Time:  8:11/mile

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From Clay on Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 13:12:34

Jeff you have a lot of guts to ref a church basketball game, I won't even play in those things cause every time I have it is ruff...

Good job on the workout and gutting it out, these are the days of our lives.

From JeffC on Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 13:33:29

It actually wasn't bad at all. The teams were pretty good and play was fairly clean. Yet in the end we still didn't blow our whistles enough. They get mad when you let them play and they get mad when you call too many fouls. Is there ever a happy medium?

Sorry to hear about the two pair of running tights the other day. I can't complain at all about the weather compared to northern Utah.....even on one of our bad days.

Keep up the good work Clay!

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Based on how crappy I felt yesterday (and today) and realizing that this is supposed to be a recovery week in preparation for several very hard weeks ahead, I took it very easy today.  We decided we better get some recovery out of this so called "recovery week" so we took it real easy today and will probably take it real easy on our Friday and Saturday runs as well.  I don't remember the last time my calfs and quads felt sore but they are sore now, probably due in part to the infamous church ball officiating from Tuesday night......still.  The weather was near perfect today with no wind and 44 degree temps.  We were approached again by our famous ankle biter dogs which came at us at a dead sprint.  Not even an appology from the owner until I retorted "it's okay" to which she responded "I'm sorry!"  Should I have had to say anything for her to appologize? 

Meg and I had a lengthy discussion on the state of our youth these days.  I was commenting to her about scouts last night and the complete disrespect shown by some of the boys who sit there and play with there cell phones, listen to their music, sit in groups by themselves to have their own little conversations, wear pants that hang below both butt cheeks with boxer showing, and all this while the young mens pres is trying to teach us the requirements for the family life merit badge.  Granted, it was a small number of priest age boys who were the culprits but what kind of respect is this?  What are we teaching these kids?  I realize the leaders probably don't want to get upset and look like the bad guy but I think these boys need to learn to be respectful of other people who are giving up their time away from family and other interests for them.  We came up with no solutions other than to reflect on how our leaders treated us as youth.  I remember getting out of hand one time and the leader grabbed me by the hair and made me sleep with the leader for the night.  Maybe not the most appropriate method for teaching respect.....but very effective.  Anyway, I digress.

Time:  8:54/mile

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Picked up the pace a little bit today from yesterday but not much.  Don't want to push the pace too much the rest of this week, just get the miles in and stay healthy.  Was very tempted to stay in bed this morning and almost did.  Got up really late but still made it to work with 5 minutes to spare.  Weather was overcast today with a breeze from the south and temps at 51 degrees....it was nearly perfect.....glad I got up.

Time:  8:28/mile

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From Mike Warren on Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:27:30

Nice job sticking to your program! keep it rolling Bro!

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Just a relatively short medium long run today.  Nothing too exciting, just putting in the miles.  Did run out to Arbor View HS to drop off my share of the entry fee for the Wasatch Back relay team.  Wind was in my face for most of the 3ish mile run out to Arbor View so I was happy to return home with the wind at my back and picked up the pace a little for a couple of miles to near marathon race pace.  Meg has some nasty bronchitis brewing so she decided not to go with me out to Arbor View into the wind.  When I got back to our development she was just coming in too and told me that she was having trouble breathing.  After we got done we sat outside and she told me about her experience during her run when she stopped and sat on the curb and contemplated flagging someone down to take her home (it was that bad).  Long story short, she made it home and then when we came inside her lungs tightened up again and she thought she might pass out.  We gave her a breathing treatment with some kind of medicine (don't know the name) and machine that we had borrowed from a friend for my other son.  I hope she is not developing some kind of asthma and that this is just bad bronchitis.  It seems like she has had congestion for quite a while so we will see what happens.

Time:  8:27/mile

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The tempo runs are starting to increase in distance in the training plan.  Today was a 5 mile LT run with a three mile warm up and a two mile cool down.  My goal going into this thing today was to keep the tempo pace miles under 7:10/mile.  During the warm-up miles I decided to see if I could average under 7:00/mile for the tempo miles because I was feeling good and wanted to really see what I could do.  Here are the splits:  7:01, 6:51, 7:02, 7:04 and 6:58 with an average of 6:59/mile.  I may have gone a little too fast on that second mile but you never know for sure with the Garmin if you are slightly off on the mileage.  The longest tempo run on this training program is 7 miles and I think I could have maintained that pace for a couple more miles but I don't know for sure.  I would like to eventually bring that tempo pace down into the 6:50/mile range but we will just see how the training goes.  Fought with a little bit of a breeze this morning on the north facing sections of the course but other than that the temps were perfect at a balmy 46 degrees.  I am finally starting to see some movement in my weight again (in the downward direction) and hopefully it will keep going down as I am about 14 pounds from my current goal of 160.  If I ever hit 160 (and that's a big IF) I will have to reevaluate to see if I should go any lower or not.  With 12 weeks until Ogden things are still looking good.  The next two weeks will give me the bigger picture as they are some of the highest mileage weeks I will have ever run with 56 this week and 59 next week.  This will be the point were my body will break down and risk injury so I will be trying to run smart and stay healthy. 

As it turns out, today is a 10 mile (training) PR for me as well.  It was a better run than I thought.

Time:  7:41/mile

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From Andy on Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:52:07

Great job Jeff. I have a love hate relationship with tempo runs - especially when they are 5-7 miles. Your splits look great and you are well on your way to a great run in Ogden.

From Cal on Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:57:29

Good tempo run Jeff. I like your new picture.

From JeffC on Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:03:31

Andy....me too. I hope Ogden goes well, I just don't know what to expect with the elevation and the first time on that course.

Cal....Thanks. The picture is okay except for the closed eyes and the bulging belly. It reminds me that I still have that "15" pounds to lose and that I should stay awake when I run.

From Clay on Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 13:09:00

Awesome workout Jeff, keep up the good work and you are going to have great things happen at Ogden. I have run that marathon and it is nothing like SGM it is gradual down hill and then rolling hills around the lake. When you hit the Dam and then head down the canyon it is pretty steep but not bad.

You can diffidently kick its butt!

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Just a nice easy recovery run today.  Had a little residual fatigue and sorness from yesterdays run but not as bad as I have felt it in the past.  I'm finding these easy lower mileage days to be a huge help in my recovery for the longer, harder days.  I'm still getting the running six days a week but I am getting better recovery for the runs that count.  Temp was 52 this morning but it was a little breezy even more than yesterday.  I don't mind the wind as much on a recovery day and pace is not an issue, so I just enjoyed being out and about today.

Time:  8:18/mile

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These medium long runs can really throw a wrench in your schedule if you don't get starte right on time.  We got started about 7-8 minutes late today and then I had to make a quick pit stop at about mile 5 for a few minutes so I really had to crank out the last few miles so I wouldn't be late getting the kids to jazz band practice this morning.  I have typically tried to keep these medium long runs at around an 8:10-8:15 pace/mile put this morning with the rush I averaged 8:01/mile.  Things felt pretty good for the most part, not alot of aches and pains to contend with other than some minor back acheage.  The aerobic system seems to be doing pretty well lately as it has become easier to maintain this pace without going anaerobic.  I ran most of the run without Megan because the pace was a little too fast and she continues to struggle with a few of her own aches and pains.  Amazingly she still get the miles in most days and guts it out. Temp was 51 degrees today with slightly breezy conditions....again.  I guess the wind just comes with the desert.  Can't complain too much though, spring is upon us.

Time:  8:01/mile

Comments
From Mike Warren on Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 21:46:00

Jeff, your miles are looking great! Do you come to St. George very often? I would love to go for a run with you, give me a call if you get down this way. I am hopefully going to be in Vegas for the Bon Jovi concert in April. If you want maybe we could go for a run.

From JeffC on Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 22:22:13

Mike, I am planning to come to St. George for the Spectrum 10K on March 15. I am scheduled to do a 15 miler that day so I may be up for 6-7 (slow) miles after the race if you want to go. Thanks again for checking in on me. A run in April would be great too, just let me know.

From Mike Warren on Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 22:37:08

A run after the 10k would be awesome. I am planning on running it also. And I agree (slow), sounds very good.

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Took it pretty easy today and made this a nice recovery run.  Instead of running the prescribed 5 miles today I ran 6 because after tomorrows run I will be at 200 miles for the month instead of 199.  Just couldn't live with coming up one mile short of the ever elusive 200 mile mark.  My previous longest month was July of last year with 193.5.  After that month I spent August recovering from injury.  I don't anticipate that being the case this year but you never know when something will jump up and bite you in the butt.  Another beautiful morning with mild temps and a fairly light breeze.

Time:  8:17/mile

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Well.....I finally reached it.....200 miles in a month.  I ran my 200th mile today in symbolic fashion.....15 seconds faster than goal marathon pace just to prove to myself that I could.  I'm glad to have that milestone behind me so that I can now concentrate on the task at hand and that is train as hard as possible for the next 2 months while not getting injured.  If I can do that I will be going for the BQ at Ogden.  I was looking at the Ogden and SGM 2007 results for the 35-39 age group to see what percentage of men qualified for Boston in each race.  There is a wider gap than I expected.  Ogden had 10% or 13/129 and SGM had 23% or 108/465.  I guess I could come up with several reasons for this rather large difference but I won't even waste my time.  Ogden looks like a great course with some small uphill with mostly flat and downhill sections near the finish.  The plan right now is to at least start out at BQ pace at Ogden and see how far I can go.  The way I see it is if I don't at least try, I will never know if I could have.  What's the worst that could happen?  I would have to try again at St. George?  I can live with that.

Time:  8:02/mile

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From Mark on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:26:29

I think that is exactly what you need to do. If you make it halfway or more but don't make your BQ it will be a tremendous experience for the next try presumably at St. George. Or, you make it halfway and keep going strong to the finish.

This was my strategy at Chicago even when the weather turned ugly. I made it halfway before slowing down due to the heat. But, it was a great learning experience. My other choice was to adjust for conditions and run a "smarter" race. However, if I did that I knew I would definitely not make the BQ time.

So, if you think you have any chance of making it, then I would definitely go for it.

From Andy on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 13:07:47

Nice job on the record mileage month during the shortest month of the year.

From Cal on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 14:10:08

You'll never know if you don't try, right? I say go for it.

Congrats on the mileage this month.

From JeffC on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 14:11:21

Mark, Thanks for the input. Hopefully the plan comes together.

Andy, got a little help with leap year:)

From Mike Warren on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 14:36:07

Jeff, Very nice mileage, your the man! I totally agree with you, remember me telling you a couple weeks back to go for your BQ at Ogden. I know you can do it. That is my same goal, maybe we will be running together!

From JeffC on Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 01:04:52

Mike, I remember you telling me, that is why I am just going to go for it. I may crash and burn but I might also soar. With your quick pace I am sure you will BQ or go sub 3. You will be way ahead of me. I will be looking for a 3:15:59.9999999:)

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Very difficult long run for me today.  Today ends the highest mileage week ever for me and February was the highest mileage month ever.  I guess it stands to reason that I am a little fatigued and didn't feel refreshed and ready to tackle 18 today.  The main thing is that I got through it at a fairly respectable pace for me but suffered a bit of pain getting there.  The lower back muscles were screaming and my energy level was low.  I look forward to a the one day of rest before going 59 miles next week.  Weather was perfect for the run today with temps in the low 50s and no wind to speak of.  Ran most of the run in shorts and a long sleeve shirt.  I think its official....spring has sprung.

Time:  8:31/mile

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From Clay on Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 11:18:58

Nice run Jeff. Way to get-r-done this month and week you are kicking some serious butt!!! Keep on tucking and be careful out there...

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Regular run of the mill 6 miler today.  Added 6 x 100 meter strides today during miles 5-6 so had a couple of faster miles today.  Ran a course that I usually save for the weekends today and really enjoyed breaking up the monotony of going around and around our development.  Plus this course has a couple of gentle hills to add a little challange and variety.  Temps were a little cooler than they had been all last week at about 45 degrees and a 10 mph wind out of the north.  My back seems to be bothering me a little more as the grind of training is starting to wear out my clunky old body.  This is about the time in the training cycle when the wheels have come off the last couple of times I have trained for a marathon.  I hope to at least keep the wheels on this time even if they are wobbling a bit.  Part of the reason that this time might be more of a struggle is the increase in miles that I am running compared to the previous two training cycles when I didn't even reach 50 miles in a week.  If I can survive this week I will be feeling pretty good about making it through at least the following two weeks since they will be a small cut-back in mileage.

Time:  8:06/mile

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From Mike Warren on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:14:25

Jeff, another good run! Whats with the Clunky OLD body? Were the same age man, just getting started Bro, plenty left in the tank! On your training program for Ogden, what type of taper are you going to do?

From JeffC on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:34:27

I am following my own modified version of the 18 week 55 miles or less Pete Pfitzinger plan. Whatever his plan calls for is probably what I will do.....or less. I have found that in the 3 taper weeks before the race less is sometimes more when it comes to my CLUNKY OLD BODY! :) I guess your right...not old....just clunky!

From Clay on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 14:28:27

You outta try running around in my Clunky Old Body, I truly am old!!!

Nice job on the run Jeff and all the mileage you are putting in, always remember to take it easy on those recovery days, it truly does help:)

Be safe...

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Another mid week medium long run.  Pfitzinger is famous for these and they are really starting to wear me down.  I had to make two pit stops during this run so needless to say I was way behind schedule this morning getting ready for work.  Legs are feeling pretty wiped out today so hopefully I will get some nice recovery before thursdays LT run.  It will be the most brutal so far on the plan and I am feeling the worst so far on the plan.  Like I said, I hope to get some good recovery before then.  Weather continues to be a little cooler than last week but I can't complain with 45 degree temps and very little wind.

Time:  8:26/mile

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Gusty windy day.  Body needed a day off.  Whatever excuse works.....no running today.

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From Clay on Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 14:20:41

Hey its hump day that's reason enough!!!

Keep up the good work, and go get your self an In & Out Burger; a double double with a side a spread...

Be safe out there.

From Mike Warren on Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 15:18:43

Your body knows best! Enjoy your day off. 1 day is not the end of the world! Just don't let it happen again! (jk). Have a good weekend.

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Taking yesterday off turned out to be a good move although I was highly doubting it at the time.  Sure it was windy yesterday and my body was screaming for me to take a day off and get some recovery.  I didn't even sleep that well after I made the decision not to run and went back to bed.  I kept waking up every 10 minutes thinking "I should just get up and go running."  Our minds are very powerful things and sometimes our minds want to do what our body is telling us not to do.  So in the end I think I made the right choice to get a little more recovery. 

Today I was scheduled for a 6 mile tempo run.  I hadn't really made up my mind how fast I wanted to try and run the tempo miles today but by about mile two of the warm up I decided I would shoot for all tempo miles under 7:00/mile pace.  If I crashed and burned at least I gave it a try.  And I really like this quote:  "You'll never know if you don't try. And never knowing comes with its own unique torture."  So needless to say, I went for it.......and here are my splits:  6:52, 6:50, 6:56, 6:58, 6:57, 6:58.  That last 6:58 was a lot of work, I really had to give it up for the last quarter mile to squeek in under 7:00.  I think this marks my longest and fastest tempo run to date.  It was a hard work out but rewarding to know that I could run a 10K at a 6:55/mile pace or better.  My goal for the upcoming Spectrum 10K is to keep it under 43:00.  With the generally downhill course I think I have a really good shot.  The weather was pretty good this morning at about 45 degrees and 5-10 mph breeze out of the north (as is usually the case).

Time:  7:34/mile

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From Mark on Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 13:40:36

You'll have downhill AND race day magic to help get you through. Your run today was on pace for 43:00 so under 43:00 shouldn't be a problem.

Great run today.

From Cal on Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 15:53:20

Good tempo run Jeff.

Do you have any races scheduled before Ogden?

From Tom on Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 16:01:54

Great run Jeff. These type workouts show you are well on your way to getting the BQ this year. Also I think sub-43 at Spectrum will be a breeze for you, more likely closer to 40 than 43 IMHO.

From Cal on Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 16:10:16

oops... i should pay more attention. i see that you're running the Spectrum 10K.

From JeffC on Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 17:53:29

Thanks Cal, Tom and Mark. If I can run closer to 40 as Tom thinks then I will be simply amazed. Hey, It could happen.......right?

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Took it really easy today and had an enjoyable recovery run.  Finally a day with now wind and comfortable temps.  Will spend the day loading up on a few carbs in preparation for tomorrows 20 miler.  Oooooooooo.....can't wait!!  Nothing else exciting today.

Time:  8:41/mile

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Doing the big nasty today!  The first 20 miler of the season and I would say it was a pretty good success.  Learned a couple of things that I really need to work on more.  I appologize if this is yucky but I had to stay fairly close to home for the first few miles due to needing the facilities twice within the first 10 miles.  What the heck!  At least I had the sense to stay close to home but......what the heck!  I think my mini carb load on Friday night went a l ittle too far and I ended up paying for it today.  When I prep for the marathon I will begin carb loading 2-3 days in advance and will not eat like a pig in the process.  Other than that minor stick in the spokes everthing seemed to go really well.  Took it pretty easy the first 15 miles where we averaged about 8:37/mile.  Then Meg started hurting and I wanted to pick up the pace for the last 5 so like a bad husband I left her and decided to see if I could keep the pace under 8:00 to finish off the run.  My final 5 splits were as follows: 8:02, 7:56, 7:57, 7:45, 7:28.  I wanted to pick that last mile up to marathon pace just to get a feel for marathon pace on tired legs.  I was amazed at much easier that pace is becoming.  A good sign that the training is working for sure.  I was also amazed that I felt so much better during the last 5 miles than the first 15.  I can't explain why going faster felt better but it did.  Maybe it was the change of stride, pace, effort, whatever but it seemed to really help me feel better and run easier.  For the first 20 miler of the year, I am happy.  I'm also happy that I am still relatively healthy at this point in the training.  Let's just hope it continues.  By the way it was a beautiful morning for a run.  When we started it was 52 degrees with a 5-10 mph breeze.  After about the first two miles there was little to no wind and the morning was perfect.  Couldn't have asked for better running weather.

Time:  8:24/mile

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From Clay on Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 15:54:37

Great run Jeff you are on your way to greatness!!! Its always good to get that first 20 miler out of the way and you did in style!

Keep up the good work...

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Nice and easy recovery run today.  Didn't feel all that easy as I still had some lingering fatigue in the legs.  My back has also continued to bother me more than I like.  The end of this week represents the half way point of the 18 week training plan for Ogden and I feel like it's gone well so far.  Hopefully the back holds out for a couple more months.  The weather was nice again today with only a light breeze and temps in the mid 40s.  My longest mid week medium long run of the training plan is tomorrow (14 miles).  That distance will require me to be up by 3:30 and on the road by 4:00 to have a chance of being done by 6:00.  I guess we'll se how that goes tomorrow.

Time:  8:51/mile

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From Cal on Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:16:54

Having just switched to Daylight Savings time, that's like getting up at 2:30... now that's dedication!

From JeffC on Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:28:17

LOL. You sound just like my wife. She always plays games with the time for days after we change our clocks or when we go to Utah.

From Andy on Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:35:22

Good luck with your run tomorrow. Fitting in the mid-week medium long run is the worst part of marathon training for me.

From JeffC on Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 14:39:28

Thanks Andy, if you are following Pfitzinger, which I think you said you are, I imagine you will be fighting through a few of these in the coming weeks yourself. Hopefully my mileage total tomorrow is 14 and not 8 or 10 cause I wimped out.

From Clay on Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 14:46:38

Good luck with your training this week Jeff you are doing an awesome job.

Be safe out there and never give up!

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I am so glad that this is the one and only mid week 14 mile run of this training program.  Waking up an hour earlier than usual is a lot more painful than it sounds.  The first words out of my mouth this morning as I stumbled out of bed were "this is crazy."  I have been having a little tightness in my calf the last few days as well as the usual back pain and I wasn't feeling really great yesterday so getting up this morning I didn't know what to expect from my body or what it could handle.  The first few miles felt much easier than expected and as those long runs progress and you get into a good rhythm the aches and pains tend to numb away into nothing.  Well I wouldn't say they numbed away into nothing but they were bearable and I was able to handle the run without too much trouble.  The weather was really good this morning with no wind and the temp at 55 degrees.  The rest of the week is pretty light which will be good for preparing for the Spectrum 10K this weekend.  Hopefully give my body a chance to mend itself a bit before the race.

Time:  8:17/mile

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From Cal on Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:15:21

Way to go Jeff. Getting up and getting out the door at that hour is at least half the battle. But it sounds like you had a good run at a good pace too.

From Andy on Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:34:54

Nice job getting up and the run in. You are right. This is crazy.

From Mark on Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:05:43

It's almost like hump day was a day early this week. Awesome job getting out there early and getting the job done. I hope your back holds up on you, your running has been going well.

From Clay on Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 15:49:37

I would prefer insane to crazy, that is what I feel everyday I get up and head out!!!

Jeff where is the spectrum 10K? I need to find out about these races for next year.

Great run this morning too, you are insane dude...

From JeffC on Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 16:24:23

Thanks for checking in Clay. The Spectrum 10K is in St. George and runs out of Snow Canyon to an LDS church in Ivans. I've never run it before but it is supposed to be a pretty fast course and scenic to boot.

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Took it really easy today in order to have a true recovery day.  Still a little concerned about the lingering tenderness in the left calf and shin area.  Will continue to take it easy for the next couple days leading up to the race to hopefully give it time to heal up.  Weather was great again today with the temp around 55 and a light breeze.  Nothing else exciting to report.

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From Mike Warren on Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 15:22:46

Jeff, yes we had a great time, thanks for asking. Also, if we are feeling up to it, a few miles after the race would be awesome. We will just go real, real easy and enjoy it. I hope your naggy little injuries leave you alone too. Very frustrating, when you work so hard and get injured. What kind of time are you looking to run Spectrum in? I think I am going to just stay in the 7's and not beat myself up. I will be running the course on thursday. After I see how steep the course is, I will decide if I am going to put the hammer down. I have not been very consistent on my training because of the knee, so I probley could not hold a real fast pace anyway.

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Nothing bugs me more than missing a day of running, well I guess being injured bugs me more, that's why I missed a day of running.  This darn nagging calf muscle just won't go away.  I'm pretty sure it's not serious because I can still run on it without earth shattering pain but I keep thinking I better not push it or it might get worse.  I don't know what this does for my chances and the Spectrum 10K this weekend, maybe it will feel better by then.  I guess one thing I've learned in my short 2 year running career is it's much better to be slightly undertrained for a race than to arrive at the starting line with nagging injuries.....and it's much better to let the injuries rest sooner rather than later.  So with that, we will see how it goes tomorrow.

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From Clay on Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:27:30

Sorry to hear about the calf. Just take it easy you have along year of running ahead of you so don't push the injury.

Be Safe out there.

And how is the day time temperature down there now? I love it when it is in the middle 70's down there.

From JeffC on Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:43:28

Thanks Clay. It will be close to 80 today and then it will really cool down by about 20 degrees over the next couple of days. If you need a road trip to Vegas, the next couple of months is the time to do it. Beautiful weather....most of the time.

From Cal on Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:23:05

Missing a day 2 days out, won't hurt at all for this upcoming race.

Do you have a time goal?

From JeffC on Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:58:42

Thanks for checking in Cal. I wasn't referring to the Spectrum 10K race, it is just for fun anyway. I was refering to my bigger goals of Ogden and then SGM. I may take tomorrow off too just for the extra rest and more importantly, healing. My time goal would be somewhere around 41-43 minutes. Never run a 10K before so don't have a PR, this will be the race to establish it.

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Took it really easy today and just tried to test out the calf.  Still a bit painful and as of right now I am not sure how I will run the race tomorrow.  It may come down to a starting line decision as to how fast to run.  If it's still painful at least I will be able to run with my dad and sister and that is not a bad choice at all.

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Arrived at the race a little before 8:00 a.m. and did some light running to test out my calf.  It was feeling pretty good.  Probably due to the cool weather, adrenaline, or race day jitters.  Ended up doing a couple miles warm up before boarding the busses for the starting line.  It was nice to meet some of the fellow bloggers on the bus.  Ended up meeting Steve Hooper, Mike Warren, Dave Holt and Clyde Behunin.  Man those guys are in good shape.

The starting line was fairly well organized and felt much more organized than my prior two St. George races (Painters and Snow Canyon).  I did see several people hikning back down the hill from where they had been told the starting line was at including my wife, dad and sister.  Anyway with the good organization we knew when and where the race was going to start and the staggered buses to the starting line allowed us to get our mandatory trip to the POPs over without too much of a wait.

The start went as anticipated....very fast.  Having run the Snow Canyon half a few months ago I knew what to expect from the downhills.  The race didn't start as high up the canyon as the half but the first mile was still pretty steep and fast.  I think I did a pretty good job of keeping my legs and pace under control and came out of the first mile feeling pretty good about a 6:18 split.  The second mile is when the rolling hills started popping up.  They aren't very long or steep but they are often and they have a tendency to throw off your rhythm.  So I struggled for the next couple miles going up and down and up and down these little rollers.  Finally about mile 3 we got into a fairly gentle downhill and I was right at 20:00 at mile 3.  The little rollers were over but the longer hills were still ahead not really all that steep but enough to make you know your working.  (I run on almost perfectly flat roads every day of the week so any kind of hill is work for me).  The nice thing at the 4-5 mile point of the race is I still feel pretty good and I am able to actually get some people in my sites and pass them.  The last small climb started at about mile 5 and I knew the finish would be generaly downhill/level so at about 5.7 I started to pick up the pace and got one more guy in my sights and picked him off.  At about 6.1 he snuck back in behind me and picked me off right at the finish.  I thougt I had him put away but somehow he came back and nailed me.  That stinks!  But I am still happy with the results overall and happy about the effort.

The calf is a bit sore after the race and I have kept a compression wrap on it and elevated for most of the day.  Luckily this next week is a recovery week for Meg and I in our marathon training so it will give me a chance to really nurse it along and try to get better before the final big push for Ogden.

As usual the fast running blog made a great showing with several runners in the top 10 and MarcieJ winning the overall womens.  Great job Marcie!  Gimpy hamstring.....bah!

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From Mark on Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 20:23:17

Awesome job Jeff! Congrats on new PR. Take care of that calf and you'll do great at Ogden.

From Mike Warren on Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 20:58:12

Hey, Great time! I tried to find you at the end but had no luck. I was feeling pretty crappy, could not breath so headed home. Your pace was awesome and I see good things for you at Ogden. Glad you had a fun race, take care and drive home safe.

From Tom on Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:59:43

Good job Jeff! You're going to have a great year!

From Cal on Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 05:22:54

Congrats on your PR Jeff! Good job on a well run race! Get that calf healthy now.

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35 minutes on the elliptical this morning and probably another 30 tonight if I can get to it.  I may spend this whole week on the elliptical depending on how the calf injury is coming along.  Will hopefully find time for some additional cross training as well.

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From Mike Warren on Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 14:50:49

Jeff, did the race beat you up?

From JeffC on Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 15:07:12

I am a little sore today in the quads but I am just trying to let this calf thing heal up a bit over the next few days. It wasn't a result of the race, it has been coming on for the last couple weeks, I just figured it was time to do something about it. I may start running again on Thursday or Friday if it's feeling better but we'll see.

From Clay on Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 21:31:38

Try to take it easy Jeff, you have come to far to have that darn calf screw things up for you!!! :)

From JeffC on Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 22:17:53

I am trying to take it easy Clay. Hopefully this thing will just go away and I can get on with training. But until then I am the elliptical man.

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60 minutes on the elliptical this morning.  I am amazed at how tought this work out really is.  I get my heart rate up to around 140 and the resistence is tough.  I also did some leg extensions and some crunches on the ball.  Calf is feeling better with the break from the pounding but still got a way to go to get where I want it to be.  Hopefully with the tough elliptical workouts I won't lose too much cardio and can jump right back into marathon training when I'm healed.

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30 more minutes on the elliptical.  Really good workout.  More core work and a few leg extensions.

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From josse on Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:17:23

I use the elliptical, bike and swimming to stay in shape last summer (injury, off for about 6 weeks) and again in the winter (surgery off for 4 weeks). I feel like I was able to regain my running form pretty quick.

What are you doing for the calf?

From JeffC on Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:33:10

Nothing special for the calf, just taking an anti-inflammatory prescription and a break from running until it feels better. I am hopeful the break from the pounding will allow it to heal.....so far so good.

From josse on Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:00:22

I would start in on some ice/heat therapy (ice 7 mins. heat 5 repeat and do it at least 2-3 times a day) Also get a massage or I am a big fan of scrapping (pt's call it aystem) I do this to my self and think it works great. I can give you a link to the tools if you are interested. This will all speed upl the healing process.

From JeffC on Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:37:05

Josse:

Whatever advice or other options you can offer would be great. I forgot to mention I also roll my lower calfs twice a day using a padded dumbell shaped thing (not sure how to explain it). It gave me good relief when I had shin splints and I figure it couldn't hurt now to kinda massage the muscle. I have also done the RICE method a couple of times in the last few days.

From josse on Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:55:13

Jeff perfect I am a big beliver in self care. The calf rolling is great. The way I massage my calfs is I put the front of my shin on the bed so the belly of the mucsle is exposed then with my fist I work from top to bottom. Hope things clear up quick:)

From Mike Warren on Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 23:23:54

Jeff, thank you for your very nice comments. I really appreciate it! I will be rooting for you at Ogden and running with you at STGM! Really focus in on your training right up to Ogden, I have a good feeling for you!

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60 minutes ont he elliptical again.  Calf seems to be improving as I am feeling less pain when going up and down stairs.  Iced the calf and knee last night for about a half an hour, maybe that helped a bit too.  I'm not going too crazy yet because I am satisfied with the level of difficulty for this workout on the elliptical.  The perceived effort is equal too or greater than running and the cardio seems to be right there.  At the peak my heart rate can get up close to 160 which for me is about an 7:50-8:00/mile effort.  It's not running but it's good for the moment.

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From Cal on Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 14:34:28

Sounds like a good substitute workout until you hit the road again. Good job!

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60 Minutes on the elliptical this morning.  Tried a couple of different pre-programmed workouts just to mix it up a little.  They were not as hard as the original workout I had been using but still a good workout.  Got a minor blister on my right foot, probably from trying to push it to hard and that's what happens when you are running in place.  The calf is about the same as it has been and still not ready to run on.  I may take a complete break tomorrow and just do some weight and core training.  I don't know if the elliptical is irritating it or helping it.

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From wildbull on Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:18:44

I have calf problems all the time! if i feel it a little ting i wrap it before i run with a ace bandage. It realy Helps.

From JeffC on Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:58:05

I have tried that and it does seem to help to have a nice compression wrap on there. This calf issue is higher up in the muscle and even causes my knee to ache a bit. No pun intended, but injuries are such a pain.

From Clay on Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:34:51

I would second the compression wrap I have tried that in the past and it has helped me.

Keep the faith Jeff this injury will pass!

From dave holt on Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 15:36:15

Hope that calf get all the way better - It was nice to meet you in person before Spectrum.

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Took a day off just to let the calf rest and hopefully allow it more time to heal.

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From Mike Warren on Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:00:55

Nothing wrong with that! Have a great weekend and get that calf better. Ogden is waiting for you!

From Cal on Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:15:52

Good for you. I hope it helps.

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Another day of complete rest. Hoping to get this thing healed soon.

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Got out and went for my first run since Spectrum this morning. Calf felt better than expected but still not where I want it to be. Stride and pace felt very clunky, which I guess is expected after a week off. May continue to run very low miles for the rest of the week just to evaluate the situation. It was nice to be out running again.

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From Mark on Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:33:56

That's great that it didn't get any worse during the week. Hopefully a few short easy runs will get you back to normal.

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Got in three more slow miles today.  Spent some time after the run doing some good stretching.  Still not sure where I am with this thing.  I guess if I can continue to run some short easy runs like this I will keep doing it and see if the situation improves.

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From Mike Warren on Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:42:16

Jeff, sorry to hear that calf is still acting up! Dang, thats frustrating so close to Ogden! I hope it comes around, this is the meat and potato stretch to get ready!

From JeffC on Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 13:10:21

Mike, ya it stinks! Same thing happened to me in August last year right before SGM. Last year I took nearly a month off, this year I am looking to try and get back into itwithout the big layoff.

From Clay on Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 14:01:35

Hang in there Jeff, and take it as easy as you can! If you can continue to run on it and gradually increase your mileage I think you will be just fine...

From Cal on Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 16:10:25

You're smart to not push it too hard too early. Are you icing it down every night?

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Well, I've started a slow progression back to the world of the living.  Another slow run today but was able to pick up the pace slightly keeping the average under 9:00/mile for the run.  The calf is still a little bothersome but seems to be on the mend a bit.  It feels really good right now and seems to come and go throughout the day.  I have a feeling all of this is related to my on going lower back issues.  I had back surgery at 21 and have had spans of good and bad times ever since.  Hopefully things will settle down back there and I can get back to normal.

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From Mike Warren on Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:13:34

Well, it's a step in the right direction. Very good!

From Kim on Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:19:17

Wow! That is amazing that you are a runner who had back surgery! I always hear such horror stories about back surgery! I hope the issues go away soon! Happy running!

From Mark on Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:36:46

2 - 3 - 4. It's a good pattern. Keep going!

From JeffC on Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:40:00

Kim, while no back surgery is minor....mine was pretty minor as far as back surgeries go...and it really helped relieve a lot of pain I was haveing at the time. Thanks for checking in everyone.

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A slow 6 today.  Still keeping things pretty easy just trying to see how my body handles a few extra miles.  Things went fair today.  The injury is still a bit bothersome but doesn't seem to be getting any worse.  It's hard to tell if it's getting any better because it has felt about the same for the past 4 days when I run, however the pain during the day seems to be easing up a bit (even without the drugs) so that's a good sign.  Still in the wait and see mode.

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From Cal on Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:40:58

Good job Jeff. It sounds like it's coming along. Does the pain ease up during the run as warm up, or is it pretty consistent?

From JeffC on Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:07:36

Cal, thanks for checkin in. I wish I could say it eases up during the run, but it is pretty consistent. That is why I think it may be a nerve issue related to my lower back. Just have to let that nerve calm down and hopefully things will be good again.

From Clay on Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:45:19

Jeff do you do strength training for you lower back?

I know about 10 years ago I had a lot of the same problem. I have a bowflex now that I use 2 to 3 days a week and one of the exercises that I do does strengthen the lower back and my back issues have subsided...

Do you have a bulging Disk, or is it something else? Just curious.

I hope the calf gets to feeling better...

From JeffC on Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 13:40:38

Clay, I don't do any strength training and that might well be my problem. I do core exercises at least a couple times a week but not very hard core. Those are supposed to help with supporting the back as well.

My original surgery in 1992 was for a herniated disk at L4/L5. My latest MRI about 6 months ago shows some bulging and some herniation of the disks at L4/L5 and L5/S1. I really don't want to have another surgery so am hoping to be able to live with it and hope it doesn't get worse.

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Ran with the group of guys doing the Wasatch Back relay in June and actually felt pretty darn good.  I was amazed at my recovery and how I am still feeling a couple of hours after the run.  Hopefully this is good news that I am on the mend and will continue to get better.  I will probably keep the distance and intensity pretty minimal next week as well so as not to mess up a good thing and that will leave me with 3-4 good strong weeks before Ogden to get the mileage and intensity back up.  Seems like I always run a little faster with these guys and our course was out and back with wind and uphill on the out and no wind and downhill on the back.  The last 5 miles were all right around marathon pace.  The elevation gain was around 475 according to the Garmin.  Good run, good course, will have to try that one again with Meg sometime.  Good mild hill training.

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Trying to get back into the swing of things this week.  I will not get back on to the Pfitzinger program this week but will try to start to bring my miles back up to around 40 or so.  Will probably be looking to just keep the intensity pretty low and just log some miles and try to get back to where I need to be with only 7 weeks out from Ogden.  The calf tightness has become bearable now but it has caused my arch to start hurting a bit so I am doing a series of stretches each day to try and keep everything loose in that leg.  I'm not better yet but I am better than I have been.  At least now I am able to run without excruciating pain.  Hopefully the trend continues.

In a month were I was planning on running 234 miles I ended up with 139....95 short of my goal.....but happy to at least have gotten the miles I got and am now hopefully on the mend.

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Wanted to run 7 or 8 today but the leg didn't cooperate and I just couldn't find a good rhythm.  So stopped at 6 and went inside to stretch out really good for a few minutes before getting ready for work.  Just when you start to think things are looking up you have a day like this when it seems like the injury is worse.

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From Clay on Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 13:12:12

Try to hang in there Jeff, I know its tough! It sucks to fight the injury bug!:(

Just try to do your best and keep thinking positive, even though it is difficult at times like these to stay positive!!!

In the words of Tom; "Every Run Is a Great run". Just keep saying that over and over again:)

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Rest.  Decided to sleep in and take a day off.

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A fairly good 6 miler today.  Felt good for most of the run and really  enjoyed myself.  Still had enough pain to know that I am not through this thing yet and still need to be carful about how much speed and mileage I add but at least I felt like this was one of my better runs in the last couple of weeks.

I have the corporate challenge 5K coming up on April 13 and am planning on running it but am still a little up in the air about how fast to try and run.  Part of me wants to try for something in the mid 20s and part of me says take it easy because Ogden will only be a month out at that point.  I still have 9 days to decide and a lot can happen in 9 days so we shall see.

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From Clay on Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 13:13:06

Good to see you back out Jeff! Be careful and take it easy and you will be back to full strength in no time!:)

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Planned on going a little further than 4 today but Meg was stopping at 4 and I needed to start getting ready for work so I just decided to wrap it up and save whatever I had in the tank for tomorrows long run.  I am still feeling some aches and pains from the injuries but I feel like things are progressing and getting better day by day.

 

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WOW!! What a difference a new pair of shoes can make.  I made the decision last night to pull out the new NB 768s and use them today.  My NB 767s have about 350 miles on them so they are very close to the end, but I wanted to see if the shoe change would help with some of the aches and pains.  From the very first 1/10th of a mile I could tell this was going to be a great run.  I couldn't beleive the absence of pain in my calf and hip.  When I started this morning I honostly had no idea how far I was going to run.  I figured I would run until I thought the pain was getting worse and then stop at whatever mile that was.  At mile 10 I still felt strong and thought, maybe I should just go 20 today since I missed a 20 miler last week.  Well, the good news is, I feel like I am getting back my pre-injury form and the pain is on the downhill slide, the bad news is, my arch is flaring up in its usual spot but at least I know that a cortisone shot from my podiatrist will cure that really quick....I just don't know if I can wait the week and a half until the appointment.  With three more strong weeks to go before the taper I hope to regain some of the fitness I have lost during my time off and reduced running these past few weeks.  I don't feel like I have lost much and if healing continues to go well I think I can get there.

Bad news for Meg.  Her knee really started hurting her bad around mile 11/12 and she gutted it out to mile 14.  I finally convinced her to stop cause she is so tough and would have finished the run at the risk of doing serious damage to her knee.  She is so ready for Ogden, I just hope she has the patience to let this knee heal up well in the next 6 weeks even if it means sacrificing a little of her fitness.  I think she is fit enough to run a sub 3:30, but not with her knee in its current condition.

 

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From Dave S on Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:18:09

Jeff, glad to here your injuries are improving quickly. I'm also planning to go to Ogden but just do the half. I'm not expecting much though because of some nagging injuries. I've been dealing with a hamstring problem for about 4 months. It is feeling great now but with only six weeks to go I'm running out of time.

From Clay on Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:24:47

I am so glad that you are feeling better Jeff, I think you are going to have a great Marathon. I wish I was running it, but I am just not ready yet:-( I hope Megs knee gets better too, having the injury bug sucks!

Be safe out there...

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Rest.  And ohhh what a restful day it was, slept in, took a nap and enjoyed both sessions of conference.

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Man I am slow!  Part way through this run today I decided to do a little trial run to see how fast I could run a mile.  We have the Corporate Challenge track and field event coming up and I wanted to get an idea of how fast I could run a mile.  Well, the answer is, not very fast.  After a three mile warm-up I ran the mile in 6:35.  I could make up all kinds of excuses like the wind, still recovering from Saturday long run and my nagging injuries, etc., etc.,  but the fact is, I am just plain slow.  Luckily there is another guy at work who will be running the 1600 and I will do the 5K the day before.  The fact is, I was planning on trying to run the 5K in the 20 minute range, but with that kind of performance in the mile, I doubt I'll make it.

Overall, I felt pretty good today and the majority of my pain lies in my arch near the heal.  Hopefully the cortisone injection I will receive tomorrow will knock that out with no problems.  I have had this shot 3 times previous over the past two years.  It seems like every 7-8 months the pain comes back and I get it done again.

Time:  8:17/mile

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I don't know that I would call my three miles today "fast" but they were under 8:00/mile and they felt pretty good considering the naggng arch (can't wait for the cortisone today at 11:00).  Felt pretty crappy for the first lap and speaking of crappy had to stop in at the house for a couple minutes for a potty break.  The second lap wasn't much better but after that, things started to loosen up.  The legs began to feel strong and my breathing felt effortless.  I felt like I could have picked up the pace even faster than I did, but decided against it considering all my nagging issues of late.  Ran in the new shoes again today and they really felt good.  Don't know if it's the shoes or my mind but I do feel better when I run in the new shoes.  Will probably try to do tomorrow run a bit faster as well and then just log the miles for the rest of the week leading up the Corporate Challenge 5K on Sunday.  I'm not overly excited about running on Sunday, my usual day of church and rest, but my team needs my time and points, hopefully I can come through and earn some points.  We shall see.

Time:  8:07/mile

768 (24)

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Tried using a lightweight neutral racing flat today (Saucony Grid Type A2).  I have never worn a shoe this light before for running.  It tips the scales at a mere 6 ounces and almost feels like it's not there at all except for the fact that it provides a very good cushioning.  It's also a very "loud" shoe in the sense that you cannot miss these ruby red slippers on my feet.  Luckily I run early in the morning when it's dark and don't have to flaunt these babies out in public.  I was contemplating wearing these for the 5K this weekend, and still may, but I feel a bit timid wearing them in public and not having the speed to live up to the shoes potential and show.  I'm glad I decided to run in them at least once before racing because I discovered I will need to make sure I tie them very securely with double knots (even though I had them in loose double knots for this run) or they will come loose part way through the run.

Today's run was supposed to be a recovery 5 mile run but since I wasn't really recovering from any brutal runs I decided to go out and give these shoes a fair trial run.  I decided to do a progression run where I increased my pace from 8:00/mile to 7:30, 7:00, 7:30, and back 8:00.  The 7:30 paces felt good, like something I felt like could hold for many miles.  The 7:00 pace felt a little labored this morning for some reason and was glad to get back to the 7:30 pace and finally ease off with the final 8:00.  Everything felt really good this morning on the injury front.  The arch is doing better now that it's got the corisone working full force and the left hip, knee and calf, seem to be feeling better each day.  My right leg is a work horse right now, boy it would be nice if both of my legs felt like my right leg.  Hopefully I'll get there before Ogden.

Time:  7:34/mile

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I had intentions to go 12 today but my arch is still very tender after the cortisone injection on Tuesday so I ended up cutting the run short becuase it was effecting my gait.  This injury bug sure isn't making things easy for me right now.

Time:  8:47/mile

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Comments
From Clay on Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:33:58

Hang in there Jeff, sometimes this running game can get very frustrating:-)

Be safe out there..

From Cal on Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 19:04:18

One of these all of your injuries will be history. Keep at it bud!

From cal on Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 19:04:40

one of these days...

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Took the day off due to continued tenderness in my heal/arch.  Hopefully it will be good to go for the 5K on Sunday.

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Another day like yesterday.  Heal/foot is still in too much pain to run.

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From Benn on Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 16:31:42

Hope things get better man. Take it easy. IT's better to take a couple days off like you're doing, then to push it and suffer a couple months off!! You're in my prayers.

Race: Corporate Challenge 5K (3.25 Miles) 00:21:56, Place overall: 28, Place in age division: 3
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Well, my heal/arch was still a bit achey this morning but I wasn't going to miss a race short of being totally lame.  Today was perfect running conditions, with absolutely no wind and perfect temps.  I ran this race last year (same course) and ended up with a 23:10 so to come up with a  1:15 PR for the course today is something to cheer about.  After crossing the finish line and looking at the distance on my Garmin I was not pleased to find that the course is 3.25 miles.  I thought I was running faster than 7:05 miles and infact I was.  Again, according to Garmin my average pace for the run was 6:44/mile.  I knew I wasn't ready to run a sub 20 5k yet but I figured a sub 21 should be very possible even with my nagging foot.  I spoke with several other runners with garmins and my response from everyone on the distance was 3.25 miles.  I even went so far as to talk (very nicely) to the timing guy about the distance and he assured me that he certified the course distance himself and that the reading on my Garmin didn't really matter......ya right.

I was still very pleased with my overall run and time.  It is a new PR even though it's still not the PR I know I am capable of.  I will be running another 5K on this same course in 2 weeks, I wonder what Garmin will say then.

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From Clay on Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 21:32:43

Great race Jeff! I think a sub 20 minute 5K is right around the corner:-) Keep up the good work and be safe out there...

We finally hit 70 plus degrees today, it felt sooooooo nice!!!

Take it easy:-)

From Cal on Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:50:44

Good job Jeff. I'd trust the Garmin distance, especially if it's corroborated by other people.

From Dave S on Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 16:59:01

Jeff, great race. congrats on the pr.

From Lybi on Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:50:34

Wow, a PR on a long course! Good times are coming your way!

Have you tried mapping the course with Google Earth? It might settle the issue of length. I'm sure it was long, though. You run pretty good tangents, right? Was it a really twisty course?

From Mark on Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 17:19:09

Great race Jeff. I hate it when courses measure long but there is not much you can do about it. The only consolation is that everyone else had to run the same length course, although that doesn't do much as far as PRs go, just in how you place. I had this happen to me in February, the course measured about 3.25 and I didn't get the time I was shooting for, but then the next 5K that I raced measured right on and I made the time I wanted, so maybe the same thing will happen to you!

From Tom on Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 13:20:05

Jeff I'm a bit late slow getting to all the race reports while I've been on vacation, but still want to give you a belated big congrats on the PR!!! I would imagine this will be the first of many PRs for you in the coming year.

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Will take a few days off to rest the arch and other minor aches.

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Don't remember much about this run just really late in logging it.

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Disneyland.  Walked about a zillion miles but no running.

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Disneyland.  Walked another zillion miles and ran two easy miles with Meg around our hotel in Santa Ana.

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Disneyland again and another zillion miles walking.  Ran 3 good quality miles around the hotel and feel like the aches and pains are getting a little better.

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Disneyland.  Walked some more but no running.  Disneyland is wearing me out.

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Last day at Disneyland and then we leave for home.  No running today again but plenty of walking.

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Ran 6 really good miles today with Meg.  All miles but one were under an 8:00/mile pace and it felt good to get back into it a little bit.

Race: Joseph Neal Elementry 5K (3.26 Miles) 00:22:52, Place overall: 8
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This was the same course that I ran on a couple of weeks ago for the Corporate Challenge so I knew it would be long.  After a week at Disneyland and very little running and eating like crap I didn't expect much today.  Warmed up for a mile before the race and wasn't feeling real great.  Legs and body was feeling a bit fatigued and it was getting hotter by the minute.  Conditions for the race were warm and breezy with a steady head wind for about a mile of the course.  Finished just under a minute slower than my time in the Corp Challenge and was a little disappointed with my effort.  Just seemed to run out of gas the last mile and had no one in reach to catch at any point in the race so I kinda ran on my own, which is tough.  The best I could do was hold off a guy who was trying to catch me.....succeeded.  Should be going into a three week taper for Ogden but I have nothing to taper from.  Will probably try to build back up over the next two weeks to around 45-50 miles and then do a one week mini taper before Ogden.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Still suffering from a little arch pain but nothing I haven't been able to ease with ice and ibuprofin.

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From Andy on Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 02:39:25

I was beginning to get worried about you. Sounds like you had a good time at Disneyland. Be careful over the next couple of weeks not to build up too much.

From JeffC on Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 02:55:34

Thanks for checking in Andy. With the Disneyland trip and the nagging injuries I have kinda gotten out of the rhythm of blogging. Hopefully Ogden is not a complete disaster. Thank you for the advice I will probably take it easy for the most part over the next couple of weeks. I have to try and find my running legs soon though.

From Clay on Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 12:22:59

I thought you were dead too for a minute but then I realized you were probably on vacation or something!!! I agree with Andy, take it easy on the build up and be careful:-)

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Spent all day today at a softball tournament that my daughter played.  Her team played 6 games over two days and ended up the consolation runner-up.  It was a tought tournamant for our girls we lost a catcher and a pitcher to injuries.  The catcher got her hand stepped on while trying to apply a tag at the plate and our pitcher caught a line drive with her nose.  It wasn't pretty but they played great and finished strong despite being very worn out.....along with all the parents.

Race: Corporate Challenge Walk Race (2.33 Miles) 00:24:16, Place overall: 6, Place in age division: 1
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Man, I don't think I can finish a marathon the way I am feeling right now......I take that back, I can probably finish, just not with the goal I am aiming for.  These nagging injuries just won't let up and I don't know if it's even worth the effort to make an attempt at the marathon and risk additional injury when I am fairly sure my BQ goal is out of reach.  Meg and I talked about running to finish and running to meet a goal today.  I have already finished two marathons, finishing is not my goal anymore, I want to run at a certain level and if I can't (due to injury) I look at it like.....what's the point?  Anyway, I will give it the rest of this week before I make a decision.....what a bummer.

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Had the corporate challenge walk race this evening and this is the 5th year in a row that I have participated in this race.  Race walking is an interesting sport but you look like a total dufus doing the walk if you do it right.  The whole hip movement is really......well strange.  I didn't do any specific training for this race other than my usual running.  Usually each year I go out two or three times just to get into the rhythm and build up my shin muscles.  The shins can really get sore from speed walking if you haven't built up those muscles.  I wasn't really sure how I would do with my nagging injuries as well but while I was warming up I felt almost no pain at all so I figured I would just go for it.  Long story short I averaged 10:25/mile (exactly the same as last year) and took home another gold.  In the five years doing this event I have won 4 gold and 1 silver.  The year I took silver I lost by 2 meesly seconds...doh!  Overall very fun event and I am not really feeling any ill effects from it....thank goodness.

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From Clay on Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:57:23

Jeff I am so sorry to here about your injuries:-( It is so hard when you put in all the time and hard work and then your faced with a decision like you have... It is so hard to just decide not to run the marathon, but on the other hand there are other marathons you could run if you gave yourself time to heal.

I know what you are going through Jeff. It seems like I was injured most of last year and it was just depressing and difficult. But one positive is your body will heal, even though it doesn't seem like it will, so I don't know what to tell ya.

Hang in there, and try to stay positive:-)

From Lybi on Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 16:51:12

Wow, that is really fast walking!

I tried race walking once, and I was astonished that it took SO much effort. I couldn't go faster than 13 min. pace, and I couldn't keep it up longer than 1/2 a mile. No wonder you always win!

Good luck with your injuries!

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Decided to keep it short and nice and easy this morning after yesterday's walk race event.  I wasn't sure if my muscles would be all cramped up this morning and surprisingly they were pretty good.  I still took it very easy with only 3 miles and about and 8:50 pace and was suprised to find that my nagging injuries were actually feeling a little better this morning.  Maybe it was a result of the wicked hip movements in the walk race :) or maybe it is just a fluke.....whatever it is, I'll take it.  I am going to try and run another easy 3 this evening just to get in 6 for the day.  As of today, Ogden is still on.

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Made it out for another 3 miles this evening.  Ran one with Cory at about 9:30 pace and then ran two more on my own at not much faster.

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From Clay on Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 00:26:39

Its good to hear that you are still considering Ogden, just take things easy...

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Another easy morning.......only because I woke up late and didn't have time to go any further.  I am still feeling some pretty good soreness from the walk race on Monday.  It's amazing the different muscles you use for walking versus running.  My shin muscles are pretty sore as well as my glutes and hamstrings.  I don't think all the soreness had kicked in by Tuesday when I did my 3 miles in the morning, that's probably why it felt so good.  Hopefully by tomorrow most of the soreness will be gone and I can get back to feeling good.  Hope to run another 3-4 easy miles tonight to make up for waking up late this morning.  Somehow I managed to get just over 100 miles this month.  Not all that great but not the worst either.

768 (70.51)

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Finally got up on time this morning and was able log an medium/easy 6 miles.  Didn't make it out last night as planned due to the court of honor running late, high winds, and my legs just didn't feel good.  I'm glad I passed on the extra miles last night because this mornings run felt pretty good for once.  Wanted to go 7-8 miles but decided not to push it just getting back into again.  If I continue to feel good I think Ogden is a go, but like I said before, it's still up in the air until after Saturday's run.  I think I may try to log at least 12 on Saturday and maybe more if I am feeling okay.  I would like to try a couple miles at marathon pace if my body will allow but mostly I just need the base miles at this point.

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From Dave S on Thu, May 01, 2008 at 11:30:55

Jeff, glad to here your feeling better. Hope your training continues to go well and Ogden will turn out good for you.

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Just another relatively easy 7 miles this morning.  Everything still appears to be looking good for Ogden but tommorrow and the subsequent recovery will hopefully tell me all I need to know.  I don't have an exact mileage in mind for tomorrows run but I am thinking something between 10 and 15 miles.  If I am feeling good I will go the whole 15 if not I will do something less but whatever it is I will try to listen to my body and obey......for once.  My sons are getting up around 2:30 am tomorrow morning to go on a band trip down to Disneyland to play in a festival and enjoy the day at Disneyland.  Those lucky buggers......we just got back from disneyland 8 days ago and they get to go back again already.  After I get them off on the bus I think Meg and I are just going to go for our run rather than go back to bed.  I will really need a nap tomorrow.

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From Cal on Fri, May 02, 2008 at 16:01:35

Good luck on your run tomorrow. I hope you make it to Ogden and run well.

From Mark on Mon, May 05, 2008 at 10:34:46

Can't wait to hear how the long run went, I hope it worked out ok!

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Well, todays long run didn't work out as planned.  I just wasn't feeling it from the very first step and since I told myself I would listen to my body very closely today and not overdo it, I decided to stop when things didn't improve in the first three miles.  It was kind of a bummer to cut it short and I could have kept going but it wasn't worth the additional injury risk so I called it a day and went home to ice.  Meg made it seven before her knee started to have a little pain and she decided to cut her run short to so as to not risk additional injury.  Man we are a couple of sorry souls right now trying to come back from our injuries.  At this point I am thinking Ogden is still up in the air but if I do decided to run it will be at more of a training run pace than BQ pace.

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Felt quite a bit better today than on Saturday and by the end of mile 7 I was wishing I had 30 more minutes to do the 10 miler I had hoped for on Saturday. It's encouraging to know that I can still run and feel good on a good day. My arch is still bothering me but seems to warm up and feel better as the run goes on. I also have the usual lower back pain and some lingering calf issues but all in all I can't complain to much, heck at least I managed 7 today.

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From Cal on Mon, May 05, 2008 at 11:15:28

Today's run sounds more encouraging than Saturday. Does this mean you're coming to Ogden? or when will you decide?

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Still feeling pretty good today.  I could tell that my legs were a little tired today from yesterdays faster paced run (8:15/mile) so we kept the pace a bit slower today in the 8:30/mile range.  Everything seems to be shaping up okay for the marathon in less than two weeks.  I won't be breaking any speed records but I think I can at least finish now.  I am hoping to up the miles to at least 40 this week and then back it off a little next week as we taper off for the marathon.  I am still not 100% or even 90% for that matter but I am glad to at least be running with tolerable pain levels.

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From Mark on Tue, May 06, 2008 at 11:17:00

It sounds like we are in the same boat pretty much. Good luck and keep up the great work.

From Clay on Tue, May 06, 2008 at 15:57:37

Its good to hear that you are feeling better, and you might surprise yourself in 2 weeks.

Stranger things have happened:-)

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I see a trend here.....7 7 7......maybe I better go to the casino tonight and see if I can line up some 7s and win big........just kidding.  Had another nice run today and felt pretty good throughout.  I can tell that my legs are not back up to where they need to be to run a fast marathon but I feel confident that I can at least finish a marathon even though I may need a couple of walking breaks.  I plan to up the mileage the next three days to 8-9 miles my legs and body will allow.  I am hoping to end the week somewhere in the mid 40s and then back it off next week to around 25-30 leading up to Ogden.

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Decided to break the pattern today and go with an extra mile. My arch seemed like it was a little tighter than usual during the first mile today, after that it seemed to loosen up a bit. Hopefully I will be able to get in a really good quality run tomorrow because my sons and I are going to our ward father and sons campout on Friday night and I refuse to run on the trails up there. The trails and roads are usually in very poor conditions and I would sure hate to roll and ankle or worse at this point. I may try to squeek in a run after we get home before we go to the Las Vegas 51s baseball game but we will see. My daughters fast pitch softball team gets to sit in the teams dugout during batting practice and then lead the crowd in "take me out to the ballgame" during the seventh inning stretch.....sweet!

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From Dave S on Thu, May 08, 2008 at 11:41:59

Jeff, Hope your run tomorrow goes good for you. If you can get through a good quality run tomorrow without aggravating any of your aches and pains too much you should be ready for Ogden. Sounds like you've got a busy weekend coming up. Have fun.

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I was on my own today as Meg's knee has been bothering her a bit again so she decided stay home and do some yoga/stretching.  I don't seem to run as well on my own and today's run was no exception.  Had a hard time maintaining the pace I was hoping for and the legs just didn't feel fresh.  I know I am just getting back into it from an injury and this has been a relatively heavy week so far by my standards so I guess the tired legs are somewhat expected.  Overall I am happy with the run but if I were running the marathon today it would be a very long day.  Tomorrow it will be tough to get my run in but I will try when I get home from father and sons.  I guess this next week will be a bit of a cut back week to try and let the legs freshen up for Ogden.  I did throw in one mile today at 7:40 pace and it felt too hard, not real encouraging for running some 7:26 miles at Ogden next week.

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From Mark on Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:16:49

Good consistent runs for the week. I hope you were able to get a run in on Saturday. I can't believe the marathon is only in 1 week. Keep plugging away.

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Didn't make it out for a run today. The day was literally packed from start to finish with stuff, stuff and more stuff. Got home from father and sons around 11:00 at which time we unloaded the truck, washed the truck, cleaned up and headed over to Cashman field for a tailgate party with my daughters softball team. We were at the field from around 2:30 - 9:00 pm ughghghghg! Needless to say it was a long day. We got to go to the baseball game, watch batting practice and play in the "kids carnival" before the game. At about 9:00 my wife was talking to my 14 year old son who didn't come to the game with us. He was walking to our home with a friend and as they arrived at home they said they noticed the light turn off in my girls bedroom. Needless to say we were all a bit worried and left the game immediately while talking to the 911 operator all the way to the car. It took us about 20 minutes to get back across town to our home and surprisingly we beat the cops to our house. The cops did a quick search of the house only to discover that no one was there and nothing had been disturbed. Don't know if it was just my son and his friends wild imaginations (and they are wild) or if it was legitimately something. Better safe than sorry I guess.

Well, the fact that I didn't get a run today was okay with me, after all it is taper time and with my injury pron body I can always use the extra healing time.

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Got started a little late today so I only had time for 5 miles, which is only one short of what I had planned on. To compensate a little bit I did the last two miles at a pace just a bit faster than maraton pace (7:28). I think the rest of my runs this week are going to be relatively slow and easy with decreasing miles to hopefully get some good healing. Everything felt pretty good. I still feel some minor aches and pains but nothing alarming. Should be good to go by the weekend.

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From Clay on Mon, May 12, 2008 at 13:23:37

Good luck Jeff, I hope you do well this weekend. I will be keeping tabs on you to see how you do.

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Another pretty good day.  Felt pretty good through out the run except for the arch area which was tight for the first couple of miles and then was barely noticable the rest of the way.  Picked up the pace for one mile to 7:38/mile and felt good.  I think my plan at Ogden is to go out at my goal marathon pace 7:26/mile, hold it for as long as I can and then see what happens.  I know an even pacing strategy would be better for overall time but I want to see where my fitness is and this would be a good opportunity to evaluate it.  At this point I would imagine I could do the first 8 miles which are slightly downhill at this pace and then see where we go from there.  We leave for Ogden on Wednesday night after my sons band concert.  We will be stopping in St. George at my parents for the night and then on to Logan the next day to stay with her mom on Thursday night, then we are in a hotel in Ogden Friday night.  The weather looks to be sunny and warm, hopefully with no wind.

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From Clay on Tue, May 13, 2008 at 14:44:02

Jeff I think you are going to have a great race, I can just feel it!!! Be safe on your travel up here, it should be great weather for the race:-)

From JeffC on Tue, May 13, 2008 at 16:16:03

Thanks for checking in Clay. I hope you're right about the race. Right now I don't have a lot of expectations going in so we'll just see how it goes.

From Mike Warren on Tue, May 13, 2008 at 19:35:04

Best of luck to you pal! Just enjoy yourself, I know you will do great!

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Nice easy five today.......Oh......except for the freaking German Shepherd dog.....HOLY CRAP!  So we are running our usual route and taking it nice and easy, about a half mile in we come upon a couple of dogs barking at each other through the fence.  Obviously the German Shepherd is the one outside the fence.  Initially it looks like we will be able to go on by without incident but then he spots us and so we start telling the dog to go home......and it looks like he may just do that.....then he starts to get aggressive, gritting his teeth and standing in his aggresive stance.  My wife jumped up on the trunk of a car and now the dog knows he's got us scared and starts moving in for the kill.  All the while, a guy in the house with the dog behind the fence is leaving for work so he pulls out in his truck and starts herding the dogs away from us by honking and yelling.  Thank goodness for him becuase I think we would have become breakfast.  I know one thing is for sure, I will never approach a German Shepherd again......ever.  The last thing I need is to get mauled by a dog on a run.

Anyway, the run went okay.  Meg is still very bothered by her knee and is already prepared for the fact that she will probably not finish the marathon.  I am still a little bothered by a couple of little nagging pains but I think I have a good shot to finish, although probably not with a blazing fast time.  We leave for St. George tonight.

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From Dave S on Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:16:51

Jeff good luck at Ogden. Maybe I'll see you there. Glad you survived this morning. Don't you hate vicious dogs when you're trying to run.

From cal on Wed, May 14, 2008 at 13:29:54

One of my pet peeves is irresponsible dog owners that can't/don't control their animals and let them roam free like that.

By the way, 2 years ago at the Ogden Marathon there was a pitbull going after runners coming down the canyon.

You guys have a safe trip and good luck this weekend. I hope I'll see you there!

From JeffC on Wed, May 14, 2008 at 13:36:41

I did not need to hear the pitbull story. I still can't get that image out of my head from this morning. Yes, I too can't stand irresponsible dog owners, I was mumbling about it for the rest of the run. Well, look on the bright side, it will make you run faster. Good luck to you as well Cal and Dave.

From Tom on Wed, May 14, 2008 at 13:51:49

Yikes! That's pretty spooky about the German Shepherd. Always in the back of my mind on runs I'm worrying about the dog attack. I used to carry mace just in case but haven't done that for a long time. You may have inspired me to start doing that again.

Good luck at Ogden. Beware of the pitbulls.

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I am typing this from my parents computer in St. George.  Arrived in St. George kinda late last night, around 10:30 Vegas time.  Slept very well for sleeping in a different bed.  Got up and went for a nice easy run with my Dad.  He took me on a really nice course with some very minor rolling hills through some of the new neighborhoods around his place.  We kept the pace just under 9:00/mile and for Dad that is a little faster than he usually goes.  We leave for Logan this morning and hopefully will be getting some good rest after our 6 hour drive.

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From Andy on Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:33:55

Have a safe drive and good luck on Saturday. Hopefully I'll see you there.

From Mike Warren on Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:35:13

How did your race go??

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Ran these miles in Logan today while staying at the in-laws.  We took it real easy and just enjoyed the run.  Starting to get a little nervous about the marathon and not really sure what to expect for tomorrow.  Hopefully things will go well and I will be able to run the whole thing and Meg's knee will hold up.

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Race: Ogden Marathon (26.4 Miles) 03:37:17, Place overall: 217, Place in age division: 45
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I finished with a PR and am feeling pretty good.  More later.

Well it took me long enough to post our race report but here goes.

The family and I traveled on Wednesday night from Vegas to St. George where we stayed with my parents and I slept like a baby and had a nice run with my father the next morning. Then we traveled up to Logan to spend the next night with Meg's mom and again I slept like a baby (more on this later).

Friday we took the kids out to "first dam," those of you from Cache Valley know what I am talking about, and went canoeing and had a picnic. I tried to be careful at the lake to stay in the shade and relaxed, I must have spent a total of one hour in the sun and my bald old head got a little burned, oh well. After putting a fresh scratch on the roof of the "less than 3 months old truck" with the canoe....doh!!!!! we left the kids at grandma's and headed to Ogden.

I thought I was getting away from the heat by going north but by the time we got to the Expo around 4:30 it was scortching hot and all I wanted to do was get my stuff and get back to the air conditioned truck. We then headed to Layton to eat at the Olive Garden with some old friends.  After the Olive Garden we got back to the hotel and went to bed around 8:30 and I slept like a baby until 1:00 in the morning and couldn't go back to sleep, it's a good thing I slept so good the two previous nights because I was so restless for the next 3 hours until we got up and got going.

We met up with some friends I was planning to run with and boarded the busses. On the trip up the canyon the wind was howling and I was thinking this could be a long day in the wind, when we reached the lake it looked almost glassy so I figured the wind wouldn't be an issue, and it really wasn't. When we arrived at the starting line I visited the POPs twice, met Sasha, Cal and AndyB...finally, and then did some light stretching and got ready to go.

We started about 15-20 seconds from the starting line and we were off to a pretty good pace right at the gun, here are the splits:

1 7:32 Arch is a little tight but everything else is feeling good.
2 7:26
3 7:23
4 7:21
5 7:19 Arch is warmed-up and doing fine and we are on a roll.
6 7:27
7 7:23
8 7:28 I am starting to feel the effect of two crudy injury laden months of training leading up the marathon.
9 7:32
10 7:29 I have made it two miles further than planned with my pacers.
11 7:43 Bye guys, it was really really good running with you at least this far.
12 8:05 It
13 8:29 really
14 8:18 stinks
15 8:55 to
16 8:28 run
17 8:38 alone
18 8:44 for
19 8:32 this
20 8:56 many
21 9:18 miles
22 8:50 hey there's one of my pacing buddies only he's hurting worse than me and is working out some cramps.
23 8:39 Still alone but surprised to still be running at this point considering the crudy training mentioned above.
24 8:59
25 9:33 Don't know what the heck happened here, major mental lapse.
26 8:48 Almost there
0.4 3:30 Thanks to the young lady who kept me upright at the finish

Final time was 3:37:17 and it was a PR by over two minutes from last years SGM. My only real goals in this race were to: 1) run with my pacers for at least the first 8 miles....done. 2) not get injured even worse.....done. 3) Finish in under 4 hours.....done....with a modest PR to boot.

I was totally amazed and impressed by everything about this course. Every volunteer I came in contact with was helpful and friendly. The volunteers at the aid stations were awesome. I was calling out for vaseline at one aid station and a volunteer put down her gummie bears and mad a mad dash to her supply bag for a packet, had to protect the nips in my white shirt......ewwww gross! I loved the locals doing the wave as I ran by. I loved running through the relay points because the crowds were extra large and lifted your spirits. I loved the scenic nature of the course with it's snow capped mountains, jagged cliffs, rushing river, beautiful waterfall, lush green covered hills, pristine lake, etc., etc. Ogden is a race that I plan to do again and again. I would have to say that I enjoyed it better than St. George. I guess since I grew up in St. George I take for granted the beauty of that course, and since I currently live in the desert, a change of scenery is always very nice.

I am happy to report that Meg is doing really well with her knee. She wasn't sure how things would go for her at the marathon but she was prepared to ride the sag wagon if necessary to prevent further injury. She tried to flag down a bus at mile 18 only to be denied. At that point she said "to heck with that, I am finishing."  She went on to walk/run the last 8 miles and finish with a time of 4:45 and one very sore knee. We have been for a walk each day since the race and this morning she appears to be walking normal with no real complaints of pain. She is so much tougher than I am, I wish I could borrow an ounce of her mental toughness to get me through my next marathon, that would be more than enough. She is also happy to report that she still owns the family PR for the marathon at around 3:34 so I still have my work cut out for me at St. George this year....yikes.

 

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From Mark on Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:25:04

Great job Jeff! PR in the heat while recovering from injury. I know it's not close to what you really wanted but if you take away the obstacles you might have gotten it. I hope I can do as well in San Diego.

From Mike Warren on Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:30:42

Jeff, AWESOME job BRO!!!! This gives you a good building block for STGM! How you feeling?

From Clay on Mon, May 19, 2008 at 14:58:38

Way to go Jeff!!! I was looking for your post on Sunday but it wasn't there. Did you just do it? I would like to run with you in St George if we can stay healthy and you don't get to fast for me. I think I can do a 7:30 pace or so.

Awesome job with this one, considering the set backs you had.

From Tom on Mon, May 19, 2008 at 15:05:20

Great job on the PR in tough conditions! Your getting the well-deserved reward of months of diligent training and overcoming adversity.

From JeffC on Mon, May 19, 2008 at 16:25:37

Thanks everyone for checking in. Sorry it took me so long to post a report. Coming home after a long trip with the family can have that effect some times.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 19, 2008 at 16:42:59

Congratulations on a PR after overcoming the injuries on a slower course and a warm day!

From Dave S on Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:57:32

Jeff, Nice race. that is great that you were still able to PR after not being able to train the way you would like. And even better it sounds like you are on your way to a quick recovery. Sorry I didn't get to meet you after the race. My son was getting a little antsy to get going and we just stayed long enough to see some of the early marathon finishers come in. Maybe we'll see you at St George.

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Walked 3 miles today with Meg.  Felt pretty good to get out and get the blood flowing again even if it was only a walk.  Tried some very slow jogging for a couple of little stretches and was still feeling pretty tight and sore so stuck with the walking.  May try a slow jog tomorrow.

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Real easy 5 today.  I was pleasantly surprised today when I started to jog slowly, I wasn't in any real pain.  Sure I was slow (9:30/mile), but it didn't hurt nearly as bad as I thought it was going to.  Looking back at my training log after the SGM I did 7 miles in the week after the marathon and 50 the second week.  I'm not sure where that explosion came from but I am not looking to repeat it this time around.  I have noticed that my recovery seems to be easier than SGM 2007.  Maybe it has to do with the killer hills at St. George or maybe my body has grown more used to the rigors, probably a combination of both.  Felt good to be back running again today and feeling good.

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WINDY!! I am starting to realize that running in the wind is not all that bad if you just suck it up and do it. You may not be able to go out and run as fast or as far as you want but at least you don't turn in a donut for the day. Today's run was another good recovery run and I was able to run it at about a 9:00/mile pace which was a little faster than yesterday. I think I am pretty much recovered and will look to start the "Sasha" training plan in the near future. I am giving up on following training plans in books, at least for now. Since all my marathons to date have included getting injured about 2 months before the race I need to try something different and go with what my body will allow for that day. When I have followed a training plan in a book I have felt pressure to get out and do the workout/miles regardless of how I felt. I think I will start running more by feel and listen to what my body is trying to tell me so that I can cut back sooner if I need to before a real injury happens. I'm not planning on doing any speed work this time around except for tempo runs at pace that is about :30 seconds faster than marathon pace. I also intend to run more miles at marathon pace when I am feeling good. A lot of rambling today but I just wanted to write down what I was thinking.

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From Cal on Wed, May 21, 2008 at 16:35:18

I like your ideas for training. Sounds like a good plan to be ready for a great St. George performance.

From dave holt on Wed, May 21, 2008 at 18:15:14

Nothing wrong with rambling... that's all I ever do. I got stuck (I had better say called!) into the elders quorum with Baggs. He should keep it interesting.

From JeffC on Wed, May 21, 2008 at 18:20:36

Dave you can say stuck...I just just got unstuck/released from EQ pres a few months ago after 3 years...that was plenty for me thanks. Good luck with the "stucking." I agree, it will be interesting with Baggs.

From dave holt on Wed, May 21, 2008 at 18:25:35

I'll tell Baggs you were there for 3 years. That ought to please him!

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windy in lower case today because it was not as windy as yesterday but still a bit blustery nonetheless.  I stopped taking the anti-inflamatories I had been taking for a few weeks before the marathon and a few days after and I was really feeling it my lower back today.  I don't know what I am going to do about this dang thing.  It really is the biggest cause of all my running problems right now and I could sure use a solution.  It could be some residual strain which has carried over from the marathon so I will give it a few more days to see if it clears up but if it doesn't I think I may need to start seeking the advise of a doctor as much as I hate to say it.  Anyway, the run went okay and the pain was bearable so life is good.....right?!?!

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From Adam RW on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 16:46:50

So I guess I’m an activist at heart. I noticed we’ve only had 13 votes but 144 views and there are more of you out there. I know some people don’t use the discussion board of the blog so I’m posting this comment on everyone’s blog that has updated in the last few days or so to bring your attention to both the discussion section and the mileage board. Please read the discussion here (http://fastrunningblog.com/forum/index.php/topic,324.0.html) and then vote here (http://fastrunningblog.com/forum/index.php/topic,348.0.html) if you have an opinion. If you already voted, I am sorry about the “spam.” Thank you!

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Finally a day with very little wind.  The wind we did have was also coming from an odd easterly direction.  Anyway it was nice and cool with pretty good cloud coverage, great conditions for running.  I was still feeling the pain in the lower back today but it didn't seem as bad as yesterday.  Picked up the pace to about an 8:00/mile for the last mile and it felt pretty good.  I am feeling like I am pretty much recovered from the marathon, no muscle soreness just some lingering staleness in the legs which I'm sure will be gone by next week.  Tomorrow I will be running with the Ragnar team up at Mt. Charleston at about 5,000-6,000 feet and on hills, should be a good workout.

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From Clay on Fri, May 23, 2008 at 23:53:26

Be careful up there Jeff, and way to go on the training this week, consistency is the key:-)

From Mike Warren on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 12:56:31

Glad your feeling good! As Clay said, keep consistent and STGM will be you BQ!

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Well, if nothing else, today has been interesting.  I was debating last night about going up to Mt. Charleston and running hills at elevation with my Wasatch relay team because my back was really bothering me.  Ever since I quite taking the meds I can feel everything.  I layed my clothes out just in case and come 6:00 am I finally decided I would get up and go.  Met the group at Arbor View HS and we drove the 30 minutes to the Mt. Charleston lodge and then proceeded up the mountain at a snails pace for three miles.  According to garmin we went from 6,800 feet to 7,600 feet in those three miles and averaged about 9:30-9:45 pace.  The way back down was a lot quicker and I averaged about 7:40/mile for those three miles.  It was pretty chilly up on the mountain and we even saw a few snow flakes and some fresh snow on the ground from the night before.  It was a tough run but very enjoyable.

Came back to town and I decided to go out and run a few more miles.  While I was running the neighborhood loop my kids came running up and told me Meg was having a problem with my car (2003 Ford Focus).  The stearing wheel had locked up and you couldn't even turn the key.  So I went to investigate and had absolutely no luck getting that thing to work.  So we had the car towed in and am now waiting to hear what the damages will be to repair that problem.  Had to know it would happen like this, I just sent in my tax rebate money to ford credit to pay off my car and now this happens.  Murphey's law or something.  Luckily my wife had only driven the car over to a friends house so it was close by and I was able to log some miles going back and forth from our house to theirs while waiting for the tow truck.  Not a bad mileage week for me after a marathon.  I hope to add a few more miles next week but not go crazy.....maybe 40.

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From Mark on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 19:18:31

Sounds like you are all recovered from the marathon. Now, if you could just do something about that back you'll be all set!

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Happy Memorial Day!!  It is a beautiful day here in Vegas.  The weather this morning was perfect for running (60) at the start and a bit too warm (70) at the finish.  Only plan today was to run 7 miles.  At the two mile mark I decided to pick up the pace a little bit to just under manrathon pace and hold it for 3 miles.  Averaged 7:18/mile for these miles and they felt too hard.  I think I may still be feeling the effects of my run on Saturday on the hills and at elevation.  Back is still bothering me but everything else seems to be doing okay.  Will plan to finish the rest of the week with relatively easy miles unless the body allows otherwise.  Not planning on following any set training schedule except what my body will allow.  SGM is only 19 weeks away, where does the time go.

Time: 55:30  7:56/mile

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From Mike Warren on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 11:46:45

Oh crud, 19 weeks! I am in trouble! Thats a good pace you were running today, pretty fast. I am enjoying the temps also, great time of year to run!

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Planned on running 7 this morning but was only able to fit in 6 due to a late start and a mid run bathroom break.  Surprisingly everything felt pretty good this morning except the back again.  It was really bothering me pretty bad last night and didn't think I would be able to even run this morning.  Once I got going everything loosened up and I felt pretty good.  Took it nice and slow today and will continue to keep it slow until things start feeling better.

Time:  51:57   8:33/mile

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Due to the continued pain in my lower back I decided to take today off and give it a rest to see if that will help.  Hopefully things will be looking up tomorrow.

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From Clay on Wed, May 28, 2008 at 23:26:16

Sorry to hear about your back again, I hope the rest will get you back on the road.

Jeff, be patient with your training as you still may be feeling the affects from the marathon...

Take it easy:-)

From JeffC on Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:40:32

Thanks Clay. I think the rest did me some good because I am feeling much better today. Not 100%, but better.

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Nice easy run today.  Started out fairly slow and built up to about 8:15 by the last mile.  Felt pretty good the whole way and didn't really feel any additional back pain that had been feeling in previous days.  I had my wife rub my back on Tuesday night pretty aggresively and I'm afraid that may have aggrivated it more.  Hopefully it is just some lingering muscular issues from the marathon and it will eventually pass.

Time:  59:18  8:28/mile

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From Dave S on Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:42:10

Jeff, sorry about your back. I've had to deal with back issues from time to time. I have also felt like stretching or massaging my back during a flareup makes it worse. For me a real easy week with 2 or three days off helps. Then I will ice for 15 min. then heat then ice again a couple of times a day and no stretching it until it gets feeling a little better seems to get it headed in the right direction for me. Then do a lot of stretching when the flareup seems to be past. This is what seems to have worked best for me. Hope it gets feeling better soon.

From JeffC on Thu, May 29, 2008 at 13:33:28

I agree with your diagnosis of my back. I have noticed that walking or just plain resting seems to help it. It is feeling much better than it did the past few days to I am encouraged. I will have to break out my ice bottle from the freezer today and prop my back up against it in my chair at work. The only real stretching I do is my hamstrings and maybe pull each leg across my body while lying on my back. Thanks for checking in I will try the Ice, Heat, Ice thing as well.

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Another nice easy run today.  I continue to be surprised by my back.  It doesn't seem to effect my running that much but is very painful if I move it just right while laying in bed or bending over.  It seems to be more in the upper hip area than the lower back.  I wonder if maybe I have strained a muscle in that area and it is trying to heal.  In any regard, running doesn't cause much pain at all unless I really push the pace and stretch out the stride.  I guess I will just continue to give it time and see if gets better or worse.  Beautiful day for running except for the breezy conditions.  Temp at the start was 66 and finished at around 73.

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From Dave S on Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:50:23

Jeff, I think you are smart to just keep running easy as long as it's not getting worse. I've read a number of articals telling how they used to think complete rest was the best for a bad back but now they have determined that excersize and staying active is best. I know my back problems were worse before I got into running. Good luck with it.

From Clay on Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:02:36

Good job getting out the last few days Jeff, keep working hard.

From Kim on Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:11:22

I've had some back problems myself. They have never felt better than when I have lost some weight and am running! My worse time is lying down too! Especially on my back or stomach. I have to be a side sleeper or I'm not moving to well in the morning. But I'm always surprised that running doesn't seem to bother me. (knock on wood!) Hope yours continues to improve.

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Woke up this morning and my back was killing me and I had some numbness in my right foot.  Typically my pain has been down my left leg and left foot area but it seems to have shifted to the right side as well.  Since things are not getting any better I decided not to run today and just take things on a day by day basis.  I think biking will be on the menu at least for the next week or so until this thing calms down and I have a chance to see the doc and get a professional opinion.

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Rest.  Back is still bothering me today and I am not planning on running at all next week based on how I am feeling today.  I guess I will get back on the NSAIDs until this thing calms down a bit.

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Rode 15 miles on the bike today with Meg in a little over an hour.  Pretty good workout but not as good as running.  We had one section with a 2-3 mile uphill that tested us a bit and we really tried to push and get the aerobic system working and it went well.  Coming back down was fun as well.  Time for this ride was just over an hour which would be around a 7 mile run at an easy pace.  I don't think I am going to log my cross training miles on here since I don't want to mix and mingle biking and running.  So even though I will be last on the mileage board, at least I know I am still working hard.

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From sarah on Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 13:30:04

Hi! Granola is super easy to make...your kids could make it. I can give you my recipe or you could search for one on-line. I buy my ingredients for it at our local health food store. Most health food stores have a bulk room where you can buy different types of seeds, nuts or dried fruit.

From JeffC on Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 14:09:07

Thanks for your response! You better give me the recipe, I would be lost otherwise. My grandmother always used to make us granola but I never got her recipe. We buy granola that is "organic" and appears fairly healthy when reading the label and it's about $2.50 a pound. Don't know if it's cheaper to make or buy but am always open to try new homemade things. We have been having trouble finding this granola in stock lately that is why I am so excited to make my own so that I will always be "in stock." Thanks for your help.

From Clay on Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 15:37:38

Great job on the bike ride Jeff, I hope the back calms down soon. Cross training is great and you can still keep your fitness, so keep it up...

From sarah on Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 16:39:20

The granola I make is very basic. You can add different flavors, nuts, dried fruit to this basic recipe.

10 cups oats

1 1/2 cups whole wheat flour

1 tsp salt

2 cups coconut (I buy from health food store so it doesn't have added sugar)

1 cup sunflower seeds

Mix dry ingredients together in big bowl

In a smaller bowl mix together

2 teaspoons vanilla extract

2 cups honey ( I use agave)

1 cup water

Add the wet ingredients to the dry.

Spread ingredients evenly on cookie sheets or baking pans sprayed with Pam.

For this much granola it takes me four cookie sheets to spread it out thin enough. Sometimes I do it on two when I'm in a hurry but it's a bit thick. I don't know if it really makes a difference though.

Bake at 325 for 30 minutes stirring every 5 minutes.

Turn oven down to 250 stirring every 10-15 minutes for 30 minutes.

Note-I am terrible at remebering to stir (we have 5 little kids that distract me) but my granola always turns out fine.

Add dried fruit after it cools and place in airtight containers.

Some people add flaxseeds, sesame seeds, maple syrup instead of honey, all sorts of nuts and other seeds. Experiment and have fun. Hope it turns out.

From JeffC on Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 17:04:14

Thanks Sarah. I will give it a try soon and let you know how it turns out. I did find this "agave" nectar you are talking about at Trader Joe's here in Las Vegas. It is $2.99 for a 11.75oz bottle (kinda small). Where do you get yours and what does it cost? Thanks again for posting this info I really do appreciate your time :)

From sarah on Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 17:07:16

i forgot the 2 t cinammon..sorry. I buy mine online from glorybee.com Buying agave in bulk is much cheaper than a health food store. It is however expensive compared to white sugar but so is honey. I just prefer agave.

From Tom on Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:11:46

Good job with the biking and staying positive through the back trouble. Usually when I've had back trouble it hasn't affected the running for more than a few days. Sometimes I've actually found easy run to help my back recover more quickly, but I also know others who get more grief if they don't stop running. HOpefully you can find just the right balance.

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Another 15 miles on the bike today.  Backside was a little sore this morning since I am still getting used to sitting on the bike for an hour.  I imagine I will get used to it after a few days but today it was a little tender for the first few miles.  Same route as yesterday with a really good hill from about mile 6 - 8.5 it's about a 400 ft climb.  Spent about 1.5 miles out of the saddle pushing pretty hard.....felt good.....not to mention saved my backside from saddle sores :)

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Another 15 on the bike today.  I am starting to sound like a broken record I know.  It was pretty windy today and it was right in my face for the entire uphill section of the usual course.  Backside is still sore and sitting in the saddle is painful, hopefully my butt builds up a tolerance to the seat soon or I will be standing for the whole ride.  I guess all new cyclists have to deal with a few saddle sores in the beginning.

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From Dave S on Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 18:10:20

Jeff, It's good to see you're getting some good cross training while your back recovers a bit. Your butt will get used to it hopfully sooner than later. Good luck with it.

From JeffC on Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 18:24:08

You're the biking guru. Tell me what you wear for biking pants and such. Right now I just ride my mtn. bike in my running cloths with no butt padding. Like you said maybe my butt will get used to it.

I would love to get a nice road bike, I hear it's worth the money if you strictly do road biking compared to a mtn bike on the road. I really don't ride on any trials, I'd probably crash.

From Dave S on Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 19:37:04

I mostly just wear jeans when it's colder and my running shorts when it's warm but they make cycling shorts with padding in the butt area. I do remember times after not riding for a while when it can get awfully painfull expecially after 3 or 4 days of riding. After the 1st week it should start to get better and eventually get to where it's not an issue anymore.

I would like to get a nice road bike also. The one I have now is a little older model I got at a bike swap for $250 but even with it you can tell a big difference on the road compared to a mountain bike. I might be doing a biathlon on the 14th but almost all of my cycling has been recovery and I'm not very fast on the bike right now and it's also tough to compete against guys on 5 to 10 thousand [or even 16 like one guy I know] dollar bikes even when I am in good riding shape.

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Didn't make it out today because it was too windy.  Long night last night.  We have a boy in the ward staying with us who's single mother is in the hospital.  He caught the stomach flu that has been going around and didn't make to the bathroom in time last night.  Needless to say we were up for a while cleaning up that mess and then decided not to get up.  Hopefully I will have a chance to go out after work tonight.

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From Tom on Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 14:52:51

Jeff you're giving me some serious flashbacks from days gone by. You can't really beat cleaning up vomit in the middle of the night for fun and excitement. I particularly recall when our son who sleeps in the basement decided to come all the way to the upstairs bathroom, leaving a nice barf trail all the way there. Fun fun fun. I feel for ya man.

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Well, I obviously never made it out yesterday so today I stepped it up and went 20 miles on the bike.  The weather was perfect with absolutely no wind.  Was able to keep the speed and heart rate up where I thought they should be to reap some benefits and averaged just over 15 mph for the ride.

Time: 1:18:46

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Nothing exciting to say, just didn't make it out today.

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Finally decided to go out for a run.  Felt good to finally go out and get in some miles on my feet as opposed to on the bike.  The miles were few and slow but felt good.  I plan to keep it slow and short this week and see how it goes.

PM

Road 9 miles on the bike with Michael and he did great keeping up with me the whole way.

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From Cal on Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 19:31:19

How did your body respond to running again? Are you past your injuries?

From JeffC on Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:25:36

Cal it felt really really good to run again even though it was at about a 9:30 pace. I am not out of the woods yet with this back thing but I think I am on the mend. Need to get some miles in before the relay next week so I am taking it nice and easy.

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Kept it pretty easy today again for the most part.  Picked it up to about 7:30/mile for a quarter mile a couple of times during the run just to test the back and see how the pain was.  Everything feels pretty good and it feels great to get out and run again but I will continue to keep the low miles this week just for caution sake.  The back still hurts if I move the wrong way, it has a way of reminding me that it's still hurting.

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No running today.  Call it laziness or just the nasty winds.  Nothing wrong with a day of rest.

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From Clay on Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 16:33:53

I know your pain Jeff and I agree, the old body can always use a rest day it certainly couldn't hurt:-)

Good Luck and stay safe!

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Kept it short and simple today.  The first couple miles the back felt a bit tight but started to loosen up by the end.  Each mile got a little quicker from about 8:45 - 8:15 by the end.

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From Tom on Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 14:55:22

Glad to hear the back is loosening up now on these runs. Hopefully it just gets better and better from here on out.

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This was the start of three 5 mile runs within 24 hours as sort of a preparation for WBR next week.  I did a couple of miles in the 7:15 range just to simulate race pace and the fatigue that I will feeling by the second and third runs which will happen tonight at 8:00 pm and tomorrow morning.  I know my three legs will occur in a shorter time frame (probably around 18-20 hours) but this is close enough for me.  I will also have the benefit of sleeping in a bed tonight where in the WBR I will be trying to sleep in a cramped and smelly van.  The next 23 hours or so should be an interesting experiment.

The run felt really good today and it actually felt good to pick up the pace again.  The back did seem to loosen up again about 2 miles in or so.  I don't know weather it lossens up or just goes numb, whatever it is it does tend to feel better.  Hopefully I will be able to say the same about tonights run.

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PM:  Did another 5.25 miles at 8:00 pm with the team.  By the time we finished it was dark and I'm glad I brought my flashlight because there were no street lights in a lot of places.  We kept the pace really slow the whole way and just logged the miles.  I could tell the legs were a little tired due to my lack of training the last couple weeks and the fact that I have never run a double even though it was only 5 miles each time.

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Met up with the WBR team again this morning at 5:00 am for my third run in about 24 hours.  We did a nice out and back 5 mile run with the first half being generally uphill and the return trip a speedy down hill.  Averaged just under 8:00/mile for the run and picked it up a bit for the last two miles to about a 7:15 pace.  The back was not feeling real great at the start and I was starting to feel other aches and pains here and there as we got going but everything seemed to warm up as we went along and felt pretty good by the finish.

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No running today.  Decided to try and get a little more healing in before I kill myself in a few more days at WBR.

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Still keeping it pretty easy with just 2 miles today and very slow.  Only a couple more days until WBR!

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From Dave S on Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:26:10

Jeff I noticed your not riding the bike much latley. Is it bothering your back at all? Good luck at WBR

From JeffC on Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:01:17

One word.....LAZY!!

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Took it easy again today.  Decided to add one small up and downhill section to test out the hip/back to see how it will feel.  I think it will be alright but it hurts a little to really lengthen out my stride so I will just have to keep it short and increase my turnover.  Was really worried about my injury last night because I tried to do a crunch on my ball and it hurt like heck, but today's run assured me that I am no worse for the wear.

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From huans32 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 17:03:13

Well Jeff I hope that your back will be ready for WBR here in a few days man. It looks like you have been doing alot of xtraining. Is it working out for you? Hope to see you at the race man if not GL.

From Tom on Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 18:55:03

Jeff we haven't seen an entry for a while. Hope everything went well at WBR and your recovery is also going well.

From JeffC on Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 19:43:27

I am here, just busy as heck at work, will catch up eventually. WBR went great and recovery is coming along. I ran the bone jarring leg 35 so my quads were/are hammered and my lower back needs a few days rest.

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Ran with Dad again in St. George on our way up to the WBR.  Nice easy run a bit later in the morning than I like, it was hot.

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Race: Wasatch Back Relay Leg 11 (3.9 Miles) 00:33:21, Place overall: 105, Place in age division: 18
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This was my first time doing this race or any race like it and I hope that I can do it again next year. After the obligatory “NEVER AGAIN” at the finish line, I began to wonder if we/I could do better next year. The beauty of running for me is there is always something I can improve upon and I guess that’s what keeps me coming back for more.

I was runner 11 (same as AndyB). Leg 11 (3.8 miles) started for me at around 9:40 pm and had one tough 900 foot climb with a 350 foot descent for the last mile. I slipped on the rarely worn racing flats looking for any little advantage I could get (I call them the ruby slippers because they are the red saucony grid type A2 shoes and if I click my heals 3 times maybe they will take me home). Said hi to Mr. Ibesleepy for two seconds at the start and then was off up the mountain. Had a fair amount of road kill :twisted: on the way up but then became road kill :cry: to a couple of runners that just blew by me like was standing still……HOLY CRAP!! :shock: Was glad to finally reach the summit and then it was everything I could do to squeak out a 6:20 average mile on the other side.

I think on of the guys flying by me was from the BYU team because I ran into a few of the FRB team at the end of my leg and the end of leg 12 and they were still waiting for their guy.  We starte the WBR at 2:40 and I think all the really fast teams started at 5:00.  I knew they would catch us but I didn't think it would be quite that soon.

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Race: Wasath Back Relay legs 23 & 35 (11.5 Miles) 01:32:00, Place overall: 105, Place in age division: 18
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Leg 23 (4.6 miles) started at around 6:15 am Saturday morning and after a night of basically no sleep and eating carb loaded energy food, I was not feeling real great. Spent some quality time in the infamous honey bucket before the start and then was off again. Had some more road kill :twisted: on this leg but once again became road kill :cry: to one guy who was just plain flying. My stomach started to cramp about midway through this leg and I wasn’t even able to get it up to “puke pace” although puking might have helped at this point. This leg was my only leg that had anything one might consider flat, but for a guy from the flattest spot in Vegas it was hilly.

Was able to get about an hour of sleep (it felt great) in between these two legs but as you will see from leg 35 it didn't do me much good. We slept on the wrestling mats on the floor of the South Summit high school gym along with many other stinky sweaty runners.

Leg 35 (6.9 miles straight off a dang cliff 2000 ft elevation loss) :shock: I knew this leg would be steep but I had no idea I wouldn’t be able to average faster than 8:10/mile all the way down. By this point in the race my legs and body were completely shot, I had no energy, no sleep and I was afraid if I got going too fast I would eat pavement. So in order to stay upright I had the breaks on the whole way down the hill. I have never been this miserable during any run including the finish of any marathon. By mile 4 the guys in the van could tell I was hurting and were asking if I wanted someone to finish for me…….NO WAY!!! I stuck it out and made it through and thought I was going to die at the end. As unbelievable as it may seem, I didn’t get passed on this leg but had quite a bit of road kill. :twisted: I guess everyone else was hurting just as bad as I was. Even though this leg is mostly down hill it has a couple of sections were it goes up some short but steep hills and switching from down hill to uphill mode proved to be impossible for me as I found myself walking the last uphill section in order to survive.

In retrospect, I really had a good time and enjoyed the guys I was with and the fun things we did to keep ourselves entertained. This team was put together by a member or our stake presidency and included men of all ages from the stake from 17 years to over 50. If asked, I would do it again. I know I would do some things different, like get more sleep and change up the diet a bit. I would also like to be better trained on the hills because my calves and quads are killing me right now. :shock:

You know I am a real running nerd, I already have the white Ragnar sticker on the back window of my car. :oops:

Final Results:
Time: 26:33:35
Overall: 105/535
Mens Open: 18/81
Not bad at all for a team of RAGNAR rookies from sin city.

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From Mark on Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:48:00

Wow, that was a great report. Sounds like it was a good time in a never-again sort of way :) Great job toughing it out and doing your best.

From JeffC on Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 13:00:36

You mean you don't want to be on my team next year? :)

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Recovering from WBR, feel like crap.

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Still recovering from WBR, feel worse than crap.

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From Mark on Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:40:12

It's ok, you don't have to sugar coat it, tell us how you really feel!

Seriously, hope you start feeling better soon.

From JeffC on Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:55:32

There is nothing to sugar coat, it sucked! But at least now it is starting to feel a little better. Thanks for checking in.

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Still recovering from WBR, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

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Decided to take one additional day to recover, who knows, may take the whole week.

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Got up and took it really slow this morning.  Planned on going about 3 miles but my left calf still feels really tight so I called it a day after 2 miles and went home and did some extra stretching.

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From huans32 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 13:40:28

Dang dude. I was able to run a bit on Mon and yesterday too. Only 5 miles. But ya I am with you. That race has been hard to recovery from. Good Job on listening to your body too.

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Took it really slow again today.  Did the loop outside our neighborhood which includes the freeway overpass....not Veyo hill but better than no hills.  Avoided a dog incident today as we were running up a street we had never run up before we noticed a large dog outside the fence rather than try to go by on the other side of the street we just turned around and ran the other direction.  After our last incident a few weeks ago I don't even mess with dogs anymore when I can avoid them.

Time 44:59  9:00/mile

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It's sad but this is the longest training run I have had since a 17 miler on April 5.  I can't beleive I haven't gone long for so long.  It really showed today too as I had to stop and walk at mile 10 for about a half mile.  It was also very hot this morning, I guess we will need to start getting into our early early morning routine on Saturdays to go for our long runs.  It's probably time to start building up for St. George but after today's run I feel like I can't even do a marathon.....what a wimp.

Time:  1:47:02  8:55/mile

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From Mike Warren on Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 09:32:29

Hey, hows it going? looks like you and I have the same injury luck. Must be the age!

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Today's run was just blaugh!  Didn't feel all that great the whole way.  Temps were in the upper 80s and it was trying to rain to the humidity must have been pushing at least 2% (actually it was 11%).  I have just had no energy lately.  I think my lackluster training and on and off injuries may have something to do with that.  At least I go through the planned mileage and didn't die from heat stroke.

Time:  50:56  8:29/mile

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From Tom on Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 18:40:58

I go through these blaugh cycles all the time too. Usually after tough races or injury. Good news is they normally go away after a couple weeks. The heat certainly doesn't help things much.

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Felt a bit better today than yesterday and was able to pick up the pace some and felt good about it.  It was still a lot of work but at least it felt better than yesterday.  Been doing a bit of extra stretching in the hamstrings whenever I have the chance and although it has not cured my issues in the lower back it does seem to be helping somewhat.  Feels good to be out putting in some good quality miles again, let's hope it continues.

Time: 57:14  8:11/mile

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From Clay on Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 12:47:21

Great job Jeff, keep up the good work and the back will cooperate! Thanks for the encouragement and for checking in on me!

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Very nice easy run today.  Tried to keep the pace slow and treat it like a recovery run.  Plan to get 40 this week so will probably keep it pretty easy the rest of the week and then 12 on Saturday.  If all goes well, this should be my best week of training since Ogden.  Continues to be very warm here, temp was 84 during our run this morning.

Time:  44:11  8:50/mile

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From huans32 on Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 10:20:46

Great job Jeff. Keep it up man. Talk about running in the heat even early in the morning.

From JeffC on Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 10:27:37

We are lucky to get a day now and then below 80 during the summer months. It kinda stinks to run in the morning darkness and have the temps over 80. Once summer gets going it just never cools off here.

From Mike Warren on Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 10:37:38

Nice run Jeff. You still thinking BQ at STGM?

From JeffC on Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 11:05:41

Always "thinking" BQ but attaining is another story! I am still plagued by the injury bug a little and am trying to work through it. If I can have a nice build up to SGM then yes, I am all over it.

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Another fairly moderate run today.  Other than the heat here in Vegas everything is going pretty well.  I keep waiting for this injury of mine to really flare up and give me serious problems but so far I have been doing fine, keep your fingers crossed.  Just trying to keep the miles right at 40 this week so I will only do 5 tomorrow and then go for a 12 mile medium long run on Saturday.  It's funny, a year ago I thought 40 miles a week was this huge amount of miles and now it's just an average week.....but it's still nothing compared to those runners doing 80-100+!!

Time:  41:51  8:22/mile

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From huans32 on Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 10:09:01

Nice job getting out there and getting it done. It sounds like running anytime but early morning is just insane. Good to hear too that your injury isnt giving you much grief.

From Cal on Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 16:32:06

I was in Vegas at the beginning of this week so I have an idea about your temps. Good job on your running.

From JeffC on Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 17:43:30

Dude, you better look me up for a run next time you're in town!

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Decided to switch the long run to today instead of tomorrow because my daughter is getting baptised tomorrow and I figured it would work out better this way.  This long run felt a bit better than last weeks but not by much.  I felt really good for the first three miles and was even able to pick up the pace to sub 8:00/mile for a couple miles but then something happened and I just started to run out of energy.  I'm not really sure of the cause, it could be a number of things, the heat, light dinner, hydration.  Well at least I got through the run without walking this week and was able to maintain a pace that I think I should be running for my long runs, I just don't think they should be this hard.

Time:  1:42:51  8:34/mile

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Run today felt okay but was pretty labored considering it was a recovery run.  Glad to be done with my first good quality week of running in several weeks.  I am hoping to build consistently from here all the way to St. George, we will see how it goes.

Time:  43:40  8:44/mile

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From Clay on Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 11:11:02

Good job this week Jeff, its good to see you back and on the training again. Good luck in the up coming weeks.

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Felt really good today and was able to run at a slightly faster pace than normal.  Gait felt smooth today for once instead of the usual clunky junk.  Dropped the last mile to just slower than marathon pace.  We go to duck creek this week for the annual family reunion.  Should be interesting to see how the runs go at 8-9,000 feet.

767 (402.75)

Time:  48:29  8:05/mile

Comments
From Dave S on Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 01:54:47

Sounds like your feeling better. that will give you 3 good months until St george. Is that the Duck creek out of Cedar City? Thats some pretty country.

From huans32 on Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 08:50:38

Sweet good to hear your getting some good runs in again. Keep it up man.

From JeffC on Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 10:50:34

Thanks for checking in guys. I am not 100% yet but at least I can run. Hopefully it continues to improve. Duck Creek is up Cedar canyon about 20-30 miles and we stay very close to Navajo Lake. Very beautiful and good fishing too.

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Kept it easy today since during this run we decided to get our long run for this week out of the way tomorrow so we wouldn't hav to do it at Duck Creek.  I don't mind running at Duck Creek but a long run at 8,000 feet and running along the very busy and scary highway is not my idea of fun.  We have run on some of the trails up in that area in the past but they are ATV trails and usually not in really good condition for runners.  So I guess we will just stick to the 6 milers around the campground while we are there.

Time:  52:09  8:41/mile

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These were 14 very long, very hot, very slow, very hard miles.  The temps the last few weeks have been hovering around 82 degrees when we go out for our 5:00am run.  This morning when we stepped outside at 4:25 for our 14 mile long run it was 92 degrees.  Granted there is basically no humidity but it is weird to see the temps that high in the pitch black morning.  When we got done around 6:30 the temp was 99 degrees and the sun was up.  Couldn't keep the last 3-4 miles under 9:00/mile pace.  Hydrated well during the run with about 24 oz of gatorade and ran through a few sprinklers to cool off but I think a combination of the heat my lack of conditioning the last couple of months contributed to this slow, tough run.  Was glad to get the run in and it is nice to know I was able to get it done without any major problems other than fatigue.

Time:  2:04:31  8:54/mile

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Comments
From Andy on Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 11:27:14

Good job getting in the miles in less than ideal conditions.

From Cal on Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:47:55

Wow that's a warm morning! Good run.

From huans32 on Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 14:01:45

Dang dude that is just hot. And good dedication to get up that early to do your runs. WTG with getting it done though.

From Clay on Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 14:15:10

Jeff,

That does not sound fun at all! I admire you for being tough and getting it done, keep up the good work:-)

From Tom on Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 18:24:45

Great job on the toasty run! Makes me really, really appreciative of our Utah county morning temps of around 60-70.

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Nice easy recovery run this morning in sunny St. George.  After yesterdays sick run I was glad to be out running in about 73 degree temps and at a slow recovery pace.  Legs were a bit heavy and there was a little bit of soreness but other than that it was a nice run.  Headed for cooler temps today up a Duck Creek, hope I don't freeze to death, should be nice.

768 330.51   767 408.75

 

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Good hard workout up at Duck Creek on this day.  Accross the highway fromt he campground is an old dirt road which goes up over the hills to Navajo Lake.  We decided to jump on that and go for 3 miles and turn around and come back to make 6 for the day.  The hills were relentless as we climbed nearly 600 feet to just above 9000 feet and had a great time doing it.  We came to a flat section that went out across an open meadow and we could have continued on that flatter road but decided to continue up over the hill to Navajo Lake.  The run to the lake ended up being 3.5 miles so we ended up with 7 miles for the day.  Not a really fast run but a great hill work out both up and down.

Time:  1:06:44  9:32/mile

768 330.51   767 415.75

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This was another good run today as we did the same trail as yesterday only instead of going up over the final hill to Navajo lake we continued on the flat section and only went out 3 miles and back 3 miles.  This is the best I have ever felt running up at Duck Creek for our family reunion.  Turned out to be a great weekend.

Time:  56:14  9:22/mile

768 330.51   767 421.75 (retired)

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Today turned out to be a pretty good run at a pretty good pace.  I haven't done much fast running lately as I have been fighting the injury bug, but today we stepped up the pace to around 8:10 for most miles and I did a couple of miles right around 7:30 pace or better and felt pretty good.  The legs didn't feel as fatigued as I thought they would after running the hills up at Duck Creek which was a plesant surprise.  The nice thing was that I felt pretty good so I stepped it up.  I think I like not planning a strict training program for myself and then feeling obligated to do a tempo run or hill run on a particular day.  If the body feels good then I will just do it, if not I will log the miles at a comfortable pace.  This may be the wimpy way out of doing some serious training but with the constant injury problems I have had lately I think it works best for me.

Time:  55:56  7:59/mile

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Comments
From Huans32 on Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 17:12:50

Good to hear you had a great run. And I think that you have hit it on the head. Listening to your body is the best way to get it done. Nice pacing man. BQing is going to happen.

From JeffC on Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 17:50:25

Hey thanks for checking in Mark. If I can stay healthy I might have a shot at SGM, we'll just see how it goes.

From Tom on Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:41:59

I agree that listening to your body and taking what it will give you is a smart way to go. Now if only I could learn that principle...:)

From JeffC on Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:24:23

Tom, I don't know that we all ever really learn this principle. Sometimes I feel like I'm logging comfortable miles when I shouldn't be running at all and sometimes I don't give all I think my body can take. It's one of those things where you walk the thin line and hope you are doing the right thing for you.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Today was a bit of a pull back from yesterdays pace.  Took it moderately easy and added a couple of fast striders in the last mile just to break it up a bit.  Still remains very hot in the mornings with the temp at 82 degrees at 5:00 AM.  Ran in the new shoes this morning which is always a good thing.

Time:  59:18  8:28/mile

NB768 330.51   NB768(new) 7.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Huans32 on Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 13:04:37

Dang dude that is just plain hot. Great pace in the heat though. How are those new shoes treating you??

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Today I did the freeway overpass workout, or in other words the hill workout.  The closest hill of any consequence is a freeway overpass near my house.  After about a 3 mile warm up we arrived at the hill and I had in my mind I wanted to do 3 round trips back and forth across this thing.  One round trip over an back is just over 1/2 mile.  The goal was not to sprint up this thing or go at any kind of faster pace but just to hold a nice steady, strong pace and really work on my downhill form for SGM.  The workout went well and I feel like my downhill form is improving.  It is still a bit clunky and my feet still slap the ground on occasion but I am trying to learn not to dig my heal into the ground and just let the hill carry me down with a nice mid-foot landing.  Weather was warm again today, but what else is new.

Meg and I had a close encounter with two dogs this morning.  During our first mile, when you are still waking up, two dogs came running out from the side of a house barking and acting like they were going to eat us.  Meg jumped behind me and I stood there like a statue not knowing what to do.  Luckily the owner came right out of the garage and was able to call them off and apologized several times at which point the dogs took off running around the neighborhood.  I hope she had to spend plenty of time catching them.  Dang dogs!!

Time:  51:50  8:38/mile

NB768 336.51   NB768(new) 7.0  Saucony A2 11.9

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Legs felt a little heavy the first couple of miles, then things started to loosen up a bit.  Did a couple of 200 meter strides during the 4th mile and then decided to pick it up to a compfortably hard pace for the last mile.  Decided not to track my pace on the Garmin and just run at a pace that felt hard but sustainable for a few miles.  It ended up being a 7:06 mile.  I guess that is about where I figured my fitness would be about now based on my lack of training.  I'm glad I still have a couple months to SGM to do something about it.

Time:  48:32  8:05/mile

NB768 336.51   NB768(new) 13.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 13:30:09

Nice job man. You got to feel good about being able to pick it up later in the run after feeling heavy at the first.

From Dave S on Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 15:24:19

That couple of months to SGM seems to be coming quickly.

From Tom on Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 18:37:12

Good run. I think you are definitely headed in the right direction.

From JeffC on Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 19:58:18

Huans...It does feel good but it needs to feel better.

Dave....Way too quickly.

Tom....I hope you're right. Just keep the injury bug away please.

From huans32 on Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 23:46:56

That is a great pace though man for your run. I am really looking forward to running with you again at SGM.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Today was all about recovery.  Kept the pace really slow and just tried to have a nice run.  Didn't really work out that way though becuase I felt pretty crappy throughout the whole run.  Everything just felt kinda tired.  It's been a pretty good week of running so I imagine that might have something to do with it.  Stress at work right now may also be adding to my fatigue.  I hope I have something to give tomorrow for my long run.  It's been at least a couple of months since I have run 16 miles so it ought to be interesting.

Time:  53:09  8:52/mile

NB768 342.51   NB768(new) 13.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:21:37

Nice job this week Jeff! You are doing a great job, keep up the good work!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
16.000.0016.00

Faster than normal long run today.  Started off pretty easy and by my 3 I figured I was feeling pretty good so I would pick up the pace a bit.  Was able to hold the remaining miles pretty close to 8:00/mile.  Really started to fade by the end of this run but was able to maintian a decent pace up to the end.  I don't feel like I could have gone much further today than 16 miles but it is definately coming along.  Hopefully the recovery is good to do it again next week.

Ended up going with the 11 year old scouts on a 5 mile hike up at Mt. Charleston about an hour after our run this morning.  It was about 70 degrees at the start up on the mountain and the hike was great.  Perfect morning to go up and get out of the heat as it was 106 when we got back to Vegas at 12:30.   BLAUGHGHGH!!!

Time:  2:10:37  8:10/mile

NB768 342.51   NB768(new) 29.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Tom on Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 14:38:19

Good job on the run! 8:10 pace is awesome.

From Clay on Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 17:35:25

Great job today Jeff! Keep it up Dude:-)

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Kept the pace fairly slow today and it all felt good after last Saturday's long run and hike with the scouts.  The hike may have even helped with some of the recovery.  Legs only felt slightly fatigued today and I felt like I could have easily gone faster but resisted the urge.  Tomorrow I am going to make an attempt at adding some 800 intervals into the mix.  The plan is to have Tuesdays be the interval day and Thursday's be the tempo run day.  I plan to start out running the intervals and tempos slower than I think I could in order to let the body slowly get used to the work out over the next 2-3 weeks.  If things go well I will try to increase the pace and go from there.  If I am going to make a serious attempt at a BQ (3:15) at SGM then I am going to need the extra speed and tempo training to get me there.

Time:  50:54  8:29/mile

NB768 348.51   NB768(new) 29.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 15:52:52

Nice job this morning Jeffery! Speed work is always good, and it breaks up the monotony...

Keep working hard!

From huans32 on Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 16:10:13

Sounds like a great plan man. Keep it up I really see you getting that goal at BQ. I find the interval speed work harder to recovery from then the tempo runs.

From JeffC on Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 17:56:48

Thanks for checking in Clay and Mark. It helps me to get out and run when I know I have someone holding me accountable. Hopefully this faster running doesn't do me in like it has in the past. Maybe I can listen to the body for once and ease off if I need to.

From Tom on Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 18:11:25

I think your plan sounds great too. Just remember to listen to your body first and if certain days it just doesn't want to do the speedwork you have planned then it's ok to punt and try another day.

I've also noticed after Saturday long runs my legs seem a lot happier come Monday if I keep moving around alot over the weekend with walking, hiking, biking, yardwork, etc.

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Today was the first trial run in a long time with the 800 meter intervals. Since it has been several months, maybe a year since I have done these I decided to take them relatively slow. Started out with a 2.5 mile warm up and then planned to do the intervals at about 6:50/mile pace or 3:25/800 meters. Splits for the 3 intervals were 3:24, 3:24, 3:23. I felt like I could have gone faster and also could have done at least a couple more intervals but happily did not even think about it. Did a 3:25 jogging recovery between each interval and had no problem recovering during that time. As we get closer to the marathon I plan to eventually pick the pace up to a maximum of 3:15/800 meters but for today my times suit me just fine. Did a little cool down at the end to make it an even six miles and went home to do some extra stretching. I think tomorrow will tell the tale of how hard these things are going to be on my body but for now I feel just fine.

Time: 50:06 8:21/mile

NB768 348.51   NB768(new) 35.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Cal on Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:13:46

Good workout Jeff. I hope you're past all the injuries now. Just over 10 weeks 'til St. George!

From JeffC on Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:37:55

Still dealing with the injuries to a certain degree. I'm not 100% yet but I am better than I have been. Thanks for checking in Cal, welcome back, I hope the vacation was good.

From Clay on Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:55:57

Nice job on the intervals, you are getting into great shape, keep up the good work:-)

From huans32 on Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 13:16:21

WOW!! Nice interval training man. You hit those splits very nicely. I was really impressed how you were able to hit them at Ogden and now even more so on your interval run. Great Job man.

From JeffC on Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 14:07:49

Clay, Thanks, not great shape, but better shape anyway....still a long way to go.

Huans, those even splits are all about the Garmin. I just ran the half miles at a 6:50/mile pace and.....tada! I don't go to a track I just use the interval training feature in the Garmin and run them on a long strait road in my development. I hate driving anywhere to workout, I'd rather just throw on the shoes and go from home.

From Tom on Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 18:30:27

Nice job on the workout. Are these workouts along the lines of the Yasso 800s?

From JeffC on Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 19:51:27

Tom, yes, Yassos is the idea with this work out. 3:15's would be my goal since my marathon goal is 3:15. Don't know if that theory holds true for me but I do know it's a good workout.

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Well, today was scheduled to be a bit of a recovery run and it was to some extent but as is usually the case we get progressively faster with each mile during the run and it ended up being a bit faster than recovery pace. Maybe my recovery pace is getting faster though because everything felt really good today and it was a pace I felt like I could have maintained for a long time. Tomorrow is another test for the injuries and the fitness. I will try a shorter tempo run of about 3 miles with the pace a bit slower than I have run tempos in the past. I am looking for the pace to be somewhere in the 7:15 range where in the past I have hit miles as fast as 6:50 for up to 6 miles. Hopefully it will turn out as good as yesterdays 800s. I was getting worried yesterday afternoon as it felt like I was starting to stiffen up in my hip and back area but this morning everything felt fine. Hopefully easing back into like this will not make it any worse.

Time: 50:53 8:29/mile

NB768 354.51 NB768(new) 35.0 Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 13:51:27

Right on man. You are getting some great runs in that you can build on. Keep it up. And BQing will be well in your reach. I was impressed with how well you were able to keep it together after you had to slow down. So if you go into SGM healthy for sure your going to PR if not BQ.

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Another big test for me today on my semi-injured back and hip, decided to do a tempo run. Did a two mile warm up and then started the 3 mile tempo. As of yesterday I was thinking a 7:15 pace would be pretty good for a first tempo run in a while. Splits were as follows: 7:11, 7:09, 7:08. I would say this was a fairly hard effort for me. I think I could have done them a little faster but I don't know, I was working hard. Near the end of the two mile warm up I was thinking my legs didn't feel very zippy today and was contemplating backing out and just running at a medium pace. I'm glad I stuck with the plan because it was a good work out and now I can see how my body reacts to this small amount of tempo running. I have a 10K on Saturday that I plan to treat much like this tempo run so keeping the pace under control today was a good thing.

Time: 46:29 7:45/mile

NB768 354.51 NB768(new) 41.0 Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Dave S on Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:21:51

Sounds like a good run. Sticking to it will pay off. Sounds like your injuries aren't slowing you to much now.

From huans32 on Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:59:36

Sweet I didnt know you had a 10k coming up. Cant wait to hear how it goes man. Those are great paces. Your going to do great on it man.

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Boring old recovery run today.  Legs felt a little fatigued but everything else felt pretty good for the most part.  I'm glad that the faster running is agreeing with my body so far, cross your fingers and knock on wood.  I think I have decided to run tomorrows 10K at somewhere between yesterdays tempo pace and marathon pace 7:10 - 7:30.  I'm not sure if I could go much faster than that anyway and don't want to risk injury for a race that doesn't have much importance for me.  Just run it for fitness and fun, it would be a first if I could actually do that.  We'll see.

Time:  51:17  8:33/mile

NB768 360.51 NB768(new) 41.0 Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:03:33

Well just go over your plan again before running it. And stick to it man. It was tough for me not to take off and run yesterday and stay with Slick. So it was ok later to let other people pass me and such. And if they do just say your a marathoner and keep that SGM race in mind. I really want to be able to run SGM with you the whole way man. We will get that BQ just keep health and strong.

From Tom on Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 22:31:23

Good luck on the race tomorrow.

Race: Tule Springs Stake Pioneer Day 10K (6.08 Miles) 00:46:09
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Got up at the usual time of 4:00AM for our Saturday morning long run and got on the road sometime around 4:40.  Ran the first 6 with Meg and kept the pace right around 8:35/mile.  Weather was very hot and humid this morning with starting temp at 85 and lightning in the Eastern sky.  Got done with the first 6 in time to jump in the car and head over to the church for our 1st annual Tule Springs Stake 5K and 10K fun runs.  This was not much of a real race as far as races go, just an excuse to go out and have a good time with friends.  They did have a couple of aid stations along the course with water and the timing was someone at the finish line shouting out times.  The course turned out to be a little short but I was fine with that as I was pretty spent by the end.  The goal was to keep the pace somewhere between 7:10 and 7:30 and I came pretty close but the fatigue, heat, humidity, wind and lack of drive got the better of me.  Finished the race with a couple more very very slow miles as my legs started to tighten up.  Pretty good workout overall and now I think I'll go lay down.

10K Time:  46:09  7:35/mile

Total Time:  1:57:21  8:20/mile

NB768 360.51 NB768(new) 55.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Tom on Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 13:49:53

Nice job on the race! You deserve a nice long nap.

From Clay on Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 15:11:58

Good job on the race Jeff, it sounds like it was a great workout!

From Dave S on Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 17:10:51

Great workout Jeff. Running a 10k in the heat right after a 6 mile run sounds tough.

From huans32 on Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 22:48:53

Great job man. Sounds like a great time.

From JeffC on Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 01:07:11

Thanks guys, it was good, but too humid and too hot. Good to get in a few miles at goal marathon pace range.

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Felt really tired today.  It's been a long weekend with family in town and all the church related festivities.  I think I still had some lingering fatigue from the 10K on Saturday because the legs took forever to warm up today and didn't feel as zippy.  Meg had to drop off th pace because she has been having some groin issues, hopefully it doesn't get worse.  Temp was 84 and still a bit humid this morning.  Only about another month of this before we get 2-3 months of really great running weather leading up to the St. George and Las Vegas Marathons.

Time:  58:28  8:21/mile

NB768 367.51 NB768(new) 55.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:30:12

Nice job on getting out and doing it. So you planning on doing the the full or half at the Las Vegas marathon?? Hope Meg is able to recover quickly.

From JeffC on Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 13:12:43

I'm planning to do the full. We've lived in Vegas for several years and I figure it's time I do the local marathon at least once. I'm a little leary though because it's $95 and it's run my Devine which has had it's share of problems lately. Since I'm not running for the prize money at least I won't need to worry about whether or not they're going to pay me...whew.

From Dave S on Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:49:29

I can't feel to sorry for myself the few times I end up running with the temps in the 80s. It sounds like thats normal for you.

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Another set of 800s today.  This week I did 4 intervals and tried to up the pace 2-3 seconds per 800.  Started with 3 miles of warm-up and then started into the intervals.  First one felt pretty good and under control.....surprisingly.  I take these intervals one at a time and evaluate how my body feels and then decide whether or not to continue with the next one.  I think the 3 mile warm-up really helped loosen things up and made these intervals go fairly smoothly.  Here are the splits:  3:21, 3:20, 3:19, 3:19.  Eventually I will try to work these down to 3:15 each and up to 10 intervals before St. George, but increasing the reps and the pace together can add injury risk so I will probably not look to increase the pace for the next few weeks.  Finished off the run with the remaining half mile to make an even 7 for the day.

Time:  57:36  8:14/mile

NB768 367.51 NB768(new) 62.08  Saucony A2 11.9

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Fairly slow recovery run today.  Slipped in a couple miles that were close to the 8:00/mile range but overall it was a good recovery run.  Felt surprisingly good considering yesterdays interval workout.  Hopefully that trend continues up to the marathon.  Actually a couple degrees cooler than usual today....82.  Hills, or should I say overpass repeats, tomorrow.

Time:  50:12  8:22/mile

 

NB768 373.51 NB768(new) 62.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Mike Warren on Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 09:31:30

Jeff, good week! Sounds like you will peak right at STGM. Hope things are going well.

From Mark on Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:32:44

Good job getting in the miles and staying injury free. I usually feel surprisingly good on a recovery run the day after speed or tempo work.

From huans32 on Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:55:01

Right on man. Great recovery run too. Sounds almost like a bit faster then a recovery run though. Nice job.

From JeffC on Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:59:07

Mike, Thanks, I hope you're right. If I can keep the injuries to a minimum it should be good. How are you doing these days? I notice you haven't blogged in a while.

Mark, not injury free, just running with fewer aches and pains than usual.:)

From JeffC on Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:01:29

Huans, ya it was about 10-15 seconds per mile faster than I have been going for my recovery runs. I guess I felt well enough that I didn't need as much recovery as I thought.

From huans32 on Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 15:16:00

I am happy to see how well your doing though man. I hope that at SGM we will be able to go the distance this time and BQ. So I am just watching your training like a hawk. So we can improve on our Ogden PRs.

From JeffC on Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 16:03:09

Huans, I need someone to hold me accountable, otherwise I would most definately screw something!

From JeffC on Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 16:28:39

Uhhhh....I meant "screw-up" something.

Nice, I hope that doesn't violate the "family-safe" rules.:)

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Hill workout this morning.  The majority of my running is on the flat roads right around my house.  Every Thursday from now until the marathon on hill day.  The closest hill to my house is about a mile away and is a freeway overpass.  It's about a .75 mile round trip over and back.  We did 4 round trips and I tried to push the pace a little on the up and down hill sections.  My garmin died (forgot to turn it off yesterday) right at two miles today so Meg let me use hers so I could keep track of my pace, what a nice lady.  I think all three hill miles were right at or just under 8:00/mile.  The warm up and cool down miles were pretty slow.  Legs felt a bit tired after the workout, hope they recover by tomorrow.  That makes 197 miles for the month of July which is my second highest total ever.  My highest ever is 200 miles in February (short month) and I ended up injured for the month of March and messed up my training for Ogden.  I need to continue to be cautious and listen to my body so the same thing doesn't happen again this time around.

Time:  50:44  8:27/mile

NB768 373.51 NB768(new) 68.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:02:47

Right on getting in some Hill work. You will really need it for Veyo. I kind of have hills on every run it seems. I havent found a route that I can do around my place yet that doesnt have some up or downs. Unless I go to the park or gym. SWEET 197 for the month very nice month.

From Cal on Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:54:02

Great job on the hills and on your mileage this month!

From Clay on Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 17:27:49

Great job Jeff, you are doing really well:-)Keep up the good work!

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Finally I do a true recovery run for once in my life.  Not much to report other than it was slow and easy and actually felt pretty good.  Meg and I have decided to switch our first 20 miler of this cycle to tomorrow instead of next week due to scheduling problems.  I don't think it should be a problem moving it up a week, and what a change for me to actually get to a 20 miler during a training cycle without being too injured to run.

Time 55:38  9:15/mile

NB768 379.51 NB768(new) 68.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 09:47:52

Good luck tomorrow with that 20 miler, you are really doing well!

From huans32 on Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 10:40:16

That is a great plan and glad to hear you finally did a recovery run. Make it a habit. :) I am tring to figure out what one is too. Pace wise that is.

From Tom on Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 13:04:13

Nice job on keeping the pace nice and easy for the recovery run. Have fun on the 20-miler.

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Wasn't concerned with time today other than subcontiously I was shooting for sub 3 hours or 9:00/mile.  Since this is my first 20 miler since March 8 I didn't want to go out and push the pace.  This week also ends with 52 miles for me which is the most since the week ending March 8 as well.  I wanted to put in the 20, feel fairly good doing it, and not risk any injury in the process.  I think I accomplished these goals today and it feels really good.  I have never made it this far along in my marathon training without being injured and that feels good as well.  All the major muscle groups in my lets were screaming by the end and I know additional 20 milers before SGM will help with that fatigue factor a ton.  I walked about a mile after the run just to "cool down" even thought the temps were pushing 90 by the finish.

On my schedule leading up to SGM right now I have a 20 miler every other week and 17 milers on the other weeks.  That gives me the chance to get in four 20 milers before the big day, but if I get two it will be more than I have ever got in the past.  I don't know if that many 20s in such a short time is over kill or not, I will just have to pay attention to my body and listen when it says to stop.  If I can get all those 20s in I think it will yeild huge dividends on race day

Time:  2:57:24  8:52/mile

NB768 379.51 NB768(new) 88.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Dave S on Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 15:07:12

Nice run Jeff. That sounds about like my plan. Alternating 20-23s with 17 milers. I'm hoping its not to much. In past years I only did 20s every 3rd week.

From Mike Warren on Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 19:18:28

Jeff, great week. I really think your BQ is coming very soon, (like Oct). Keep yourself motivated, its getting close!

From Mark on Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 10:08:18

Wow, 20 miles already, I didn't realize your marathon was coming up so soon but I guess it is not that far off. Well, there's one 20 miler in the bank with some more to come before SGM!

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NB768 379.51 NB768(new) 88.08  Saucony A2 11.9

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Nice recovery/easy run today.  Everything felt pretty good considering the long run on Saturday.  Recovery seemed to go well and legs felt really awake and good by the end of the run today.  Will be doing at least 7 miles each day this week with some intervals and a tempo run on Tuesaday and Thursday respectively.

First couple of laps were a bit strange today.  First lap we had a kid ask us if we had a cell phone and we told him no we don't run with a cell phone, his response was, "really?"  No, just kidding, her you go son......what the... Later in that same lap we came across a kid laying in the middle of the road so we ran up to him and asked if he was okay, he said he was so continued on.  The next lap we came to an area in our development near one of the exit/entrances to the main road which can be busy at times.  It is a three way "T" intersection and we always stop and wait if there are cars coming because it is usually fairly dark and we don't want risk them not seeing us.  Anyway, we come running along the top of the T heading straight and a truck is coming directly toward us getting ready to turn left in front of us so we begin to slow down to a walk so he can make the turn.  A second and third car pull up to the stop sign on our right waiting to turn left in front of us.  At this point we are standing there waiting for the cars to clear, the first guy in the truck, with the right of way, just sits there, the two cars coming in front of us from the right pull out in front of the truck and turn left and the truck still is sitting there waiting for us.....HELLO!!  Another car pulls up on the street to our right and Meg has had enough so she started going and I just went along with her hoping not to get hit.  Living in Vegas you never know what idiot is coming home from the casino drunk and tired and you never want to risk running out in front of a car even if they have a stop sign or stop light, unless they are stopped or you make eye contact.  Needless to say, we survived to run another day....whew.....wierd.

Time:  1:01:40  8:49/mile

NB768 386.51 NB768(new) 88.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 10:15:43

Wow, that is crazy Jeff! Good job getting the run in and I am glad you your wife are home safe and sound...

From Kim on Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 12:47:00

Quite an adventure this morning! Kind of weird to have a kid down in the road! Thanks for the encouragement on my blog!

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Today I ran 800 intervals.  In the spirit of building up slowly I kept the quantity at 4 and decided to try and keep the pace around 3:20/800M range.  Before the run even started I commented to Meg that my legs felt a little dead this morning.  I wonder if I am still feeling fatigue from our 20 miler last Saturday.  I have no soreness and no aches and pains in the legs, they just felt tired.  Decided to go through with the workout and maybe the legs would wake up.  Did a two mile warm-up and then changed the Garmin over to doing intervals.  These are the splits:  3:18, 3:15, 3:18, 3:20.  Felt pretty good throughout the workout and even went a bit too fast on that second interval.  During the cool down my hamstrings and lower back felt a bit tight so I will do some extra stretching during the day today to see if that helps.  We are pretty much into the last big push before SGM, hope the body holds up.

Went geocaching last night with the family for FHE.  Didn't know how easy it was to load the coordinates into my Forerunner 301 and head out the door to hunt for treasures.  Geocaching is when people have hidden boxes (usually ammo cans or small tins) in different areas around town and other people use GPS to go find them and then you write in the log book in the cache and log your find on the website.  Once you make the find you can remove some of the loot and replace it with your own treasures or just add your own treasures or do nothing.  The kids really enjoy the hunt and seeing what is in th treasure box.For those of you interested in finding out more about geocaching go to www.geocaching.com.

Time:  58:23  8:20/mile

NB768 386.51 NB768(new) 95.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Mike Warren on Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 09:33:01

Nice & Steady. Good Job!

From Tom on Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:20:26

Nice job on the 800s. I certainly can relate to the AM dead-leg feeling since that is how I almost always feel in the morning.

Also liked hearing about the geocaching idea for FHE. We may have to try that sometime.

From Cal on Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 14:15:19

Hey Jeff, have you done much Geocaching previously? I was really into for a long time but haven't done much lately.

BTW nice job on your 800's.

From JeffC on Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 14:40:04

Cal, I haven't done any geocaching in Las Vegas until this week. I didn't know I could just download the cache coordinates into my forerunner and go. I thought it was more work than that and that I needed a handheld GPS. In the past I have always gone with my dad and all the grandkids up in St. George and the kids loved it. So we have it shot the past couple of nights and had a great time. Will probably do it more often in the future.

From huans32 on Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 07:53:30

Great job on your run man. Those are great split times. Very close together. And I will have to take the girls out this week and do some of that geocaching. They will just love it.

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Nice and easy recovery run today.  Legs felt pretty heavy today and I have just been feeling tired the last day or two.  The summer cold bug is going around my house right now and maybe I have caught a touch of that, hope not.  Meg didn't run today because her knee started bothering her from the first step so she got the bike out and went for a ride.

Time:  1:02:07  8:53/mile

NB768 393.51 NB768(new) 95.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Mike Warren on Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:43:30

Jeff, Great job braving that Vegas heat! Thanks for the comment. I know I cant expect to start where I left off. Just a very impatient person. I am pipe dreaming goals for STGM and not wanting to face reality.

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Ran a 4 mile tempo run today.  My legs finally felt a liitle better this morning, I wouldn't say they had zip but at least they weren't dead like they have been the last few days.  Wanted to keep the pace around  7:10/mile which would have been about the pace of my tempo run a couple of weeks ago.  Ended up going a little faster than expected and I was pretty pooped by the time I finished.  Here are the splits:  7:03, 7:00, 6:53, 6:59.  I'm not sure what happened in that third mile, I did stop for gatorade.......maybe that stuff really works.  I think once I set the bar for myself on that first and second mile I felt like I needed to maintain an even pace for the whole run.  Really had to concentrate hard and try to relax on that las mile to bring it in even with the others.  tomorrow will tell the story of whether I pushed too hard or not.  Lots of extra stretching for me today.

Time:  53:51  7:42/mile

NB768 393.51 NB768(new) 102.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Mike Warren on Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:36:31

Great splits Jeff! You still have some speed in those legs. Good strong miles today, will pay you back later.

From Clay on Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 10:13:51

Nice tempo run Jeff, you are getting speedy keep up the good work.

From Tom on Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 18:24:50

Great job on the tempo run. Nice to see those miles with 6 in front of them.

From Cal on Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 19:54:57

I agree with Tom. From a mental standpoint, I think its great to drop below 7's especially when you're hovering in that range anyway. Good running!

From JeffC on Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 23:43:43

Thanks guys, I just worry that one of these mornings I'm gonna go out to run and my body is gonna say....nope, your done.

From huans32 on Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:49:03

Great job man. And that is great run even if your body says ouch tomorrow. Just means you run a nice recovery and recovery for it. Awesome splits man. Your going to leave me in the ditch at SGM I am seeing it now. :)

From Andy on Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:09:57

Nice run. Glad to see you are still running strong with no injury this close to the marathon.

From JeffC on Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:34:21

Thanks Mark, but I highly doubt I will be leaving you in any ditch.

Thanks Andy, I am just holding my breath and trying to run smart so I can make it to the start healthy and hopefully well trained. Last year at this time I was walking or using the ellyptical

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Just a run of the mill recovery run today.  Kept the pace nice and slow.  Didn't feel as tired as I was expecting from yesterdays tempo run but I did have a twinge of soreness in my left quad for the first several steps of the run.  Nothing else really exciting to report from this run, other than it was hot and humid......again.

Time:  1:02:56  8:59/mile

NB768 400.51 NB768(new) 102.08  Saucony A2 11.9

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Another long run today, this week was a 17 which I am hoping to alternate with 20's every other week from now until the taper.  There was a fairly nice breeze for the first several miles of the run and it seemed to keep the heat down a bit in the early miles.  I had planned to try and add in some marathon pace miles (7:28/mile) during this run to see how it would feel to run that pace on tired legs.  At mile 7 I said goodbye to Meg and went off with aspirations of going 6-7 miles at MP.  Well only made it 3 miles before the fatigue was too much and I just didn't have it in me to continue.  Did a U-turn and ran backward to Meg and we ran together until 16 miles when I decided to finish strong with another MP mile.  During the mile after the marathon pace miles I did not feel real well, just felt really tired and felt like I may have to just quit.  Ended up gutting it out and after that mile started feeling better.  It is encouraging to me that my body seemed to get back into a rhythm after feeling so crappy but it's dicouraging that I was only able to manage 3 marathon pace miles.  I think I can blame it partly on the past two weeks being very tough training for me with higher mileage and higher intensity than I have done in a long time.  Hopefully during the next couple of weeks the body will hold up and adapt to the rigorous training schedule.

Time:  2:24:28  8:29/mile

NB768 400.51 NB768(new) 119.08  Saucony A2 11.9

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Started out today's run feeling pretty crappy.  Didn't sleep real well last night and woke up with one of those headaches that gets worse with any sort of physical movement.  The rest of the body felt okay so I went ahead and suffered through the first 4-5 miles before I finally started feeling a little better.  Still not feeling really great and want to go back to bed.  Hope I am not coming down with the colds my kids have been passing around the last week or so.

Time:  1:02:57  9:00/mile

NB768 407.51 NB768(new) 119.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:17:57

Good work getting out today Jeff, and I hope you feel better as the day goes on sometimes we catch the funniest things from our kids.

Keep up the good training!

From Huans32 on Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:36:26

Good job with getting out and running. Kids love to share their colds and bugs. Just keep yourself a bug free zone until after SG. :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Yasso's!!  Yep, another day of the lung scorching 800s.  The last few weeks of doing these has caused me to be pleasently surprised.  The reason I say that is I have been feeling some pretty good fatigue lately and when it comes time to find the strength and speed to do these things, it's there.  This morning when I started my two mile warm up I said to myself that I would take the Yasso's one at a time and see if I was able to continue after each one.  Well after I had completed the first interval I felt so good that I knew I would have no problem completing the whole workout.  Here are the splits:  3:17, 3:14, 3:16, 3:23, 3:07.  I know splits 4 and 5 look a little out of whack so here's the story.  I use my Garmin to do half mile intervals but I also have a half mile area measured out near my house which I use, so with or without the Garmin I know where the half mile starts and ends.  The Garmin apparently went to breakfast during my fourth interval and I ended up running about 150-200 feet further than needed before it finally registered a half mile.  I would estimate that the fourth interval was right around 3:15 as well.  Anyway I was a bit upset about the garmin being off during that fourth interval that I grabbed the bear that had been hitching a ride on my back threw him to the ground put him in a choke hold and took off like I stole something, determined to make up for the garmin screw up, well, I guess I did.  Cooled off at the end with a mile and called it a day.  Another successful interval workout in the bank, hope it pays big dividends, with few penalties.

Meg had a cortisone shot in her heal yesterday afternoon so she did 20 on the bike and I had to do my intervals solo today.  I am usually solo on interval day anyway because she runs her's at about a 3:30-3:40 pace but at least I see her as we pass each other going back and forth.

Time:  0:57:03  8:09/mile

NB768 407.51 NB768(new) 126.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:23:11

That was a great workout Jeff, I would like to throw some of those in but not until I'm pain free!

Keep up the good work your are doing awesome!

From Tom on Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:59:59

Great job Jeff. I think you're already starting to see the dividends, with the best still yet to come.

From Cal on Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:11:48

Nice job on your 800's! It looks like you're right on target.

From Huans32 on Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:34:20

Dang dude. Nice job!! Looks like no signs of injurys anymore. Very sweet. We are going to just rock down at SGM.

From JeffC on Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:16:21

I wouldn's say "no signs" of injury.... I would say injuries behaving themselves.....for now....while holding my breath and crossing all my fingers and toes and knocking on wood, etc...

From Mark on Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:37:12

I love doing fast intervals, they are such a big confidence booster to be able to dig down and see what's there. Great job!

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Just a simple recovery run this morning.  Legs were dead as usual but started to feel better as the run progressed.  I think my body is getting ready for a bit of break.  Next week is a reduced mileage week so maybe these legs of mine will have a chance to recharge.  Temp was actually cooler today at 78 degrees, hope it keeps going in the downward direction but it's probably wishful thinking....it's still August.  Meg was by my side again this morning with her cortisoned up heal feeling better.

Time:  1:00:58  8:43/mile

NB768 414.51 NB768(new) 126.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Mike Warren on Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:02:15

78 degrees, did you wear a jacket? That must be a nice break from the Vegas heat. Your miles are looking good. Are you feeling the BQ at STGM?

From RivertonPaul on Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:43:02

Good job running and blogging.

From JeffC on Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:17:26

Mike....I don't know about the BQ, I really have a hard time haveing any confidence when I am in the middle of training and I am in constant fatigue mode. I will have a better idea in a few weeks when we get into the taper and I see how the duct tape and glue has held together.

Paul...Thanks for checking in. 3:15 at SGM? You should jump in with us and pace us all to a BQ!

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Today was our hill/freeway overpass run.  My left knee was bothering me for the better part of yesterday, yes this is new.  So I was a little worried about going out and running up and down hills on it.  Decided the uphill portions wouldn't be bad and I could just take it easy on the downhill and see how things went.  I took 800mg of ibuprofen before bed last night and woke up this morning actually feeling pretty good for once.  Even my legs didn't have much of the usual fatigue......miracle drug.  Anyway, the run went fine and I kept the pace and effort fairly easy.  Will plan on icing, elevating and stretching a lot today.  I have avoided it too this point but I think I will have to start an ibuprofen regemin for a few days to see if I can rid myself of this knee pain.  I have decided to retire my old shoes at 414.51 miles since that is usually about as far as I ever take a pair of shoes and that may be contributing to the knee pain.

Time:  1:02:40  8:57/mile

NB768 414.51 (retired) NB768 133.08  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:37:00

Sure hope its the shoes. We dont like new pains and injuries for sure. Way to listen to your body man.

From Mike Warren on Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:46:41

Jeff, you sound like an old man! Welcome to the club. Hey, nice run today!

From JeffC on Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:34:15

Mike....I am an old man......and so are you :)

From Steve Hooper on Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 01:30:56

Nothing better that 800mg of ibuprofen before bed. I always wake up feeling like $100.

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Today was a nice recovery run and a test on the knee to see if it will be up to running 20 tommorow.  Well, the knee felt fine at this pace and the legs actually felt pretty good.  The pain is now in my left foot on the outside of the foot and up into my ankle area.  A couple of years ago I rolled that ankle really bad playing basketball and maybe all my rolled ankle over the years are coming back to haunt me.  I was able to run on it but it wasn't very comfortable.  I'm hoping some ice and ibuprofen will do the trick today and we will see how it feels tomorrow.  Weather continues to be quite hot with the temp at 84 yesterday and 85 today at 5:00 am.  It's supposed to be 86 for the low tommorow so it just gets better and better.....oh well, things could be worse.

Time:  1:02:53  8:59/mile

NB768 140.08 NB768 (new) 0.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:53:33

Good to hear the knee is feeling better. Whats with the new one with the foot and ankle? Maybe just side effects from the retired shoes? Great job getting out and running another good recovery run. Cant wait to hear how your 20 goes tomorrow.

From Dave S on Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 16:43:35

Just when one thing gets feeling better there's something else. Isn't that how it seems to go. Hope it's just one of those fantom pains that goes away as fast as it came.

From Cal on Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 16:57:37

20 miles in the mid 80's sounds like a blast!

I hope your foot doesn't become a problem.

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Dang Day Off!  Well the thing on the outside of my left foot is turning out to be worse than first thought.  There is a little bit of swelling and it's a bit painful to walk on.  I guess I will try to get in to see my podiatrist this next week to find out what it is, until then, no running.  It's kind of a weird deal as it just appeared out of nowhere, no warning, no build up of pain.  I'm hoping it's just some tendonitis but I suppose it could be a stress fracture or something else, who knows.  I'll give it the weekend to see what it does and go from there.  What a dang bummer, just when things are going good, something always happens.  I guess I will just have to kick back and watch a few movies today......darn :)

Comments
From Cal on Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 13:15:14

Hang in there. I hope it turns out to be nothing!

From Mike Warren on Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 14:45:20

I know the feeling. Let us know what you find out. Lets just hope it something minor. You deserve a shot at that BQ! Hang in there, my friend.

From Dave S on Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 16:11:40

Jeff, sorry to hear that. I hope it turns out to be minor. It can get discouraging especially when your working that hard toward a goal and things are going so well.

From Clay on Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 23:50:34

My wife works for her brother who is a podiatrist, and it sounds like its tendinitis to her... You might need a cortisone shot and some rest for a few days. She said to try an ice pack under your knee and elevate the foot, and IB prophen twice a day, or however you spell it. She says they deal with that alot and it is fairly common.

Good luck, if you need anything else give us a call...

From huans32 on Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 09:00:51

Man that is a bummer. I cant wait to hear about what they say. Rest up though man and I am sure you will be running even better then before.

From Mark on Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:42:03

I hope you get good news when you get in to see the Dr. It sounds like it is not a stress fracture because it just came out of nowhere which is how my tendinitis cases usually are. But definitely better safe than sorry!

From JeffC on Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:04:31

Hey thanks for checking in guys. I am fairly confident that I can get by this thing and continue training. Time will tell.

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Foot was feeling a little better this morning so I decided to go out and give it a try.  Didn't want to push it so took it really easy and decided to stop at two.  I have no doubt I could have kept going but I didn't want to make things worse so called it a day and will try to make and appointment to see the podiatrist soon.  Compared to last Friday, the foot is looking 70% better with much less swelling and pain.  Hopefully it will continue to improve.

Time:  18:16  9:08/mile

NB768 140.08 NB768 (new) 2.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:59:25

Nice job man. Good to see your taking it easy on it and just testing it. Doesnt sound to bad. Looks like your tring out the new shoes too. I will give you a call later.

From Clay on Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 13:18:31

Good news Jeff. I hope it continues to improve and you can get back to training fast:-) Keep the faith man!

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Since I didn't think it would be wise to run 800s today I just decided to do my 6 miles and pick up the pace just a tiny bit.  The plan was to see how far and how fast my foot would let me go and then stop if it got to be too much.  Luckily I didn't have to stop.  There was a minimal amout of pain in my foot and ankle but nothing extreme.  At the end of the run I was not limping and as I type this there is only a bit of stiffness but not much pain.  I plan to continue the ice and anti-inflamatories through the end of this week and then see where we are next Monday.  The pain in the foot sort of feels like a mild sprained ankle, only I don't seem to remember ever spraining my ankle.  As some have said, it is most likely a bit of tendonitis that can hopefully heal up relatively easily.  I plan to take it pretty easy the rest of this week.  This was a planned reduced mileage week anyway so it should work out well.  Hopefully I'll get some nice recovery and healing for a good three week push to SGM before the taper.

Time:  51:04  8:31/mile

NB768 146.08 NB768 (new) 2.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Huans32 on Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:21:42

That is great news man. Glad to hear your foot is only a bit sore. Your a animal man. Great pace too.

From Tom on Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 14:23:19

Nice job on the run. I think your approach to dealing with the mile injury is a good one. Hope all continues to go well with the recovery week.

From Dave S on Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 14:32:51

Glad to hear it may not be serious. An extra light week sounds like a good idea and you shouldn't lose anything fitness wise.

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Well started the run today and didn't make it very far before I decided I better ride the bike today.  I am still not out of the woods on this foot thing.  It was kind of hurting today so I decided it would be smarter to grab the bike and ride hard rather than push the foot and make it worse.  Made it 20 miles today on my usual route out to the cement plant near the 95 an Mt. Charleston turn off.  Most of the road out there is a gradual uphill with a couple pretty good climbs, sure is a nice ride back home.  Foot feels fine after the ride so I know biking isn't causing me any problems.  I can still feel it when I walk but I am not limping.  It was actaully kinda cool this morning at 75 degrees and riding the bike made it feel even cooler with the added wind generated by my blazing speed, felt really nice.

Bike:  20 Miles

Time:  1:19:47  15 MPH

NB768 146.08 NB768 (new) 2.0  Saucony A2 11.9 

Comments
From Dave S on Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:08:05

Jeff, nice ride. good to see you getting after it on the bike. Hope you can get that foot thing under control soon.

From Huans32 on Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:32:02

Very good choice with not pushing it. And getting in a great ride. Looks like the temps are getting cooler. And good to hear the biking doesnt hurt your foot at all.

From RivertonPaul on Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 16:21:20

Good job on getting the foot healed up.

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Another day on the bike.  Foot and ankle are still bothering me so I decided to take the bike again.  Same route as yesterday and pretty much the same time.  Really need to get a light for my bike because it is mighty dark out there at 5:00 AM.  Meg went with me today just to keep me company and we really worked hard on the uphill sections of the course.  Coming down the hills back toward home we got passed by a couple of guys on road bikes.  We were going about 25MPH and they were probably going closer to 30 and still had the gears to pedal.  A nice road bike would sure be fun for these road rides instead of our moutain bikes.  Oh well, at least it is a very good work out and my legs are pretty wiped out by the end of these rides.  I know it's not the same as running, but hopefully I can at least maintain some of my fitness while I heal up.

Time:  1:18:44  15.2 MPH

NB768 146.08 NB768 (new) 2.0  Saucony A2 11.9 

Comments
From Clay on Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 13:18:09

Wat to go Jeff, you won't loose much fitness at all... Have you been to the doctor yet, and if you have what did he suggest? Hang in there and be patient, I know its hard but just keep the cross training up until you feel comfortable to run on the foot:-)

From Huans32 on Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 13:19:29

WOW Dude!! 25 on a mountain bike is flying. I have to be really pushing it to get 25 on flat roads. And you did it on a mountain bike. AWESOME!! And as for the fitness I am sure your not going to loose any fitness with that kind of effort. And the best thing is you feel fine normally after and then next day. Great job man.

From JeffC on Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 13:44:14

Mark...On flat roads I am averaging about 17-18, I only get up to 25-27 on the good downhill sections.

Clay...I couldn't get an appointment until next Tuesday so I am doing the things that I am sure he would tell me to do, Ice, Anti-inflams, and no running. The only thing I think he could add is an explanation of what is going on and maybe cortisone if he thinks it will help.

From Huans32 on Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 18:57:16

Either way even on a downhill your getting a great workout man. Dont worry about losing much at all. Your getting a great workout on the bike. Great recovery or xtraining for sure man. Your doing everything right I think. Keep it up man.

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Rollin', Rollin', Rollin', man my butt is swollen, raw'hind'.  Yes folks another fun filled 20 mile bike ride today and man was my butt sore today after 2 days of hard riding.  Same cousre as the previous two days and pretty much the same time if you account for stop signs and traffic signals, etc.  Strapped a little head lamp to the front of my bike this morning to give me a little light until the sun starts to come up at about 5:45AM.  The first 30 minutes of the ride is a little harry in some areas that don't have street lights, glad the traffic is lite.  These bikes probably aren't doing much for my running legs but they are definately a leg workout.  I go camping with the 11 year old scouts tonight so I probably won't get a run in tomorrow.  Good couple of days rest before I try to get back at it Monday......hopefully.

Time:  1:19:53  15 MPH

NB768 146.08 NB768 (new) 2.0  Saucony A2 11.9 

Comments
From Huans32 on Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:52:41

Very nice man. You didnt mention how the foot is going. Hopefully that means its alot better and you didnt notice it. Make sure you wear some bike shorts.

From JeffC on Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:55:54

Mark...Don't have any biker shorts, I suppose they would probably help. I could feel the foot on the bike ride today but it doesn't really bother me and as of this morning at work it is feeling pretty good. Still gonna go see the Podiatrist next Tuesday and see what he thinks. Good luck at PCM tomorrow, based on your last few races you should do really well.

From Dave S on Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 15:46:24

Jeff, you better get your butt rested for next week. I'm sure riding doesn't do a lot for your running leg muscles but it's got to help keep you from losing as much overall cardio fitness. As much as it works your quads it just might help a little with the downhill running? I hope.

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Scout camp along with some hiking, which was good, but other than that, no running or biking.

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Decided to go out and see how the foot is doing today after almost a week of no running.  I was still able to feel the pain but it wasn't as intense as it was last week.  I go in to see the podiatrist tomorrow and hopfully come up with some solutions or maybe even get a cortisone shot to get me through the next six weeks to the marathon.  Run felt really good and legs actually felt like they had some zip in them for once, I guess a week off will do that for you.

Time:  51:58  8:40/mile

NB768 146.08 NB768 (new) 8.0  Saucony A2 11.9 

Comments
From Mike Warren on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 09:11:30

Jeff, good to see you back. I know alot of people, who have been very successful with Cort in the foot. I know how you feel, sucks running injured. Lets just hope we both make it to the starting line in Oct.

From Clay on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:03:14

Jeff,

Glad to see that you were able to get out, keep working hard. I hope things go well with the Dr. tomorrow.

From JeffC on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:45:27

Thanks guys, cort in the foot has worked very well for me in the past so I am hoping for the same this time around. Mike, I know you will be at the starting line ready to go, you are an animal.

From Cal on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:50:55

That's encouraging that you went 6 miles today. I hope your foot recovers quickly. (You've had more than your share of aches and pains.) Less than 6 weeks 'til SGM, lets hope we're all in top form and perfect health for it!

From Huans32 on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:32:02

That is great you were able to recovery so nicely so far. Cant wait to hear what the Doc says tomorrow. At least you can run on it now.

From Dave S on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 14:40:36

Good luck tomorrow at the doc

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Decided to run a goal marathon pace run today since my training hasn't really included many miles at GMP.  Started out with a 1 mile warm-up and then got right into a 7:28, or better, pace.  The splits went like this:  7:16, 7:03, 7:29, 7:25, 7:22.  I am not really sure what happened in the second and third splits but feel pretty good about the run overall.  It wasn't easy but it wasn't as hard as a good hard tempo run either.  My foot pain wasn't too bad this morning and I am looking forward to seeing the podiatrist today and get his opinion.  I'm not looking forward to the possibility of a cortisone shot.....those things hurt......especially in the foot.......and I am a big wimp.

The Doc:  Well I found out I don't currently have a stress fracture (he called it a Jones fracture), or at least not one he can see on x-ray.  He hasn't ruled it out entirely becuase I guess these things can take up to 2-3 weeks to develop into something you can see on x-ray.  He thinks it is just some tendonitis in those tendons that attatch to the outer edge of the foot.  He suggested if it continues to get worse we could do a cortisone shot but since it has gotten better he suggested waiting a week or so to see what happens.  If it really gets bad he also suggested a bone scan to check for a stress fracture but that would be down the road a ways yet.  So for now I am going to continue with the Ice and anti-inflams and get back after it.  If worse comes to worse I will have a three week taper to ride the bike and tone it down and hopefully get fully healed.

Time: 53:46  7:41/mile

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Comments
From Clay on Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 09:52:30

Nice job this morning Jeff, I hope you get some good news at the Doc he can help your foot feel better.

Keep up the good work your doing awesome!

From Cal on Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:00:18

That's a good pace for your run. Nice work!

From Huans32 on Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:13:29

What the?? I thought you had a bad foot going on. LOL great job man and great splits. Post again once you find out what the podiatrist gives you his opinion. Hopefully your back on track again. Sure is looking like it.

From JeffC on Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:36:51

I'm back from the Doc and I don't know that I am back on track completely, but I am going to try and go for it over these last three weeks and get as much as I can done. The foot has been improving so I figure I need to do what I can for now and keep a close eye on it, maybe ride the bike once or twice a week along with running just to be safe. I'm planning on hitting it hard this week with a 20-21 miler on Saturday so it will be a good test for all the aches and pains.

From Huans32 on Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:41:21

Great news then man. Good idea with riding 2 days or so a week just to keep up with it. Sounds like you have been doing everything right to get you back to where you are now.

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Took it nice and easy today and had to fight to keep the pace in the slow range.  Legs felt okay after yesterdays faster run.  Stepped on a rock today during my run.  I caught it right in the ball of my foot between the 2nd and 3rd toes.  Hurt like ..........insert your own explative.  I had to stop for a couple of minutes and walk and stretch it out on the curb.  Continued running and it seemed okay but I can still feel a dull pain as I sit here typing this.  Of course this was on my left foot which has been bothering me so just another insult to my already injured foot.......holy crap!!  I think I am going to invest in a bubble and live in it for the next 5 weeks until the marathon so I don't have to face the harsh realities of the cruel world of marathon training.

Time:  1:02:38  8:57/mile

NB768 153.08 NB768 (new) 15.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Mike Warren on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:49:11

When it rains it pours. I know what explative, I would fill the blank with!! Were getting close, hold it together Bro!!

From RivertonPaul on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:04:18

If the foot is bruised, you might consider some cross training, like elliptical. A thought on cross training, though, is that it seems best substituted for what would have been recovery runs anyways as it is something. You are doing well, hang in there.

From Cal on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:14:24

Hang in there Jeff. With all you've dealt with this year, just think how mentally tough you'll be once St. George gets here!

From Clay on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 14:03:53

When it rains it pours! If it weren't for bad luck you'd have no luck at all:-) That's all I got Jeff, keep your head up and try not to get to discouraged...

Good job getting out this morning too!

From Dave S on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 14:24:45

I feel your pain Jeff expecially on the one thing after another part of things.

From JeffC on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 14:41:16

Thanks for checking in guys, I really do appreciate you all thinking of me. As bad as all my problems sound, this has probably been my best marathon training cycle of my 4 attempts. In each of the last 3 cycles I have missed as much as a month of training and had some relatively low mileage months. So I should probably just suck it up and quit crying.

From Tom on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 16:56:56

Man I know what you mean about cruel world of marathon training. I tripped on a wire last week and like you stepped on a stupid rock today. About this time in the training cycle it starts to feel like everyone/everything is out to get you and mess up months of very hard work!

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Foot was still noticable today but it was the best it has been since I first injured it.  Decided to run some freeway overpasses with Meg today and it went well.   We ran 4 round trips which equates to about 3 miles of up and downhill running and then the rest of the run was on the flats.  Decided to through in an extra mile because we had time and because I was feeling good. I could still feel the spot where I stepped on that dang rock yesterday but it wasn't bad.  Hopefully it's just a little bruised and I will be able to take care of it with some ice today.  Hopefully the good times keep rolling for a few more weeks.

Time:  1:07:38  8:26/mile

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Comments
From Huans32 on Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:06:25

Sounds like you had a great run then at a great pace. Looks like Meg is running like a champ too. Is she staying good and strong too?? I dont know if you guys meantioned it or not. But is she running SG too??

From JeffC on Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:17:01

Meg is running SGM for sure. She is running pretty strong right now but once in a while has a bit of a knee issue that she has to deal with. This Saturday will be her third 20 miler so she is way ahead of me. If I'm not careful she will smoke me at SGM. She is shooting for a 3:30 which would be a 4 minute PR for her.

From Huans32 on Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:24:37

That is great news. I am glad she is doing so well. And your pace is really picking up too.

From Mike Warren on Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 20:24:46

Jeff, 8 miles, outstanding! You have time for a great finish to your training. We both just need some luck, this final month!

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Dang Dogs!  Had a run in with another dog today right at the first mile marker, so it was still very dark and we were both very much still asleep.  Well we were wide awake after this encounter.  The boxer type dog came running out from in between two cars in a drive way and got close enough to Meg that she could have easily touched it.  Meg almost jumped in my arms and I let out a bit of a shout and then a few more rantings loud enough for all the neighbors to hear at 5:00AM  Heee Heee Heee!!!  Too bad Meg didn't have her pepper spray at the ready, that dog needed a real good dousing.  Anyway, we made a pit stop at home to grab the cell phone and made a call to animal control.  I doubt anything will come of it cause we never saw the dog again on any of our other laps around the neighborhood.  Maybe the neighbors heard my shouting.......oh well! 

The run felt great, the foot is feeling much better and I am looking forward to testing it out on a really good 20+ miler tomorrow.  I think our plan is to run for 3 hours or 20 miles, which ever is longer.  I suspect we will end up running closer to 22 miles but we'll just have to see how it goes.  I am planning to throw in 5-10 miles at marathon pace or faster (hopefully closer to 10 than 5 depending on how I am feeling).

Time:  1:01:08  8:44/mile

NB768 161.08 NB768 (new) 22.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Dave S on Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:26:52

Dang those irrisponsible dog owners anyway. That sounds great your foot is feeling better. If you can get through tomorrows run your training should be right back on track for a good SGM. Good luck tomorrow.

From RivertonPaul on Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:29:50

There are no dogs on treadmills. Another reason I don't mind running on them. :)

From JeffC on Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:46:12

I hear you there Paul. I wouldn't mind having a treadmill on some of these 85 degree 50% humidity mornings. By the way, there is nothing wimpy about running on a treadmill. You're still logging some very sick mileage and doing it very fast. If I went that fast on a treadmill I would probably be tossed through the back wall.

From MarcieJ on Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:49:05

The guys at the club always ask me why I have my pepper spray when I am running with them, JUST for the reason you just mentioned above! I have had too many scary run ins with dogs and some of those dogs are bigger than me lol:) Good luck on your long run tomorrow!

From Huans32 on Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 13:06:42

Dang man. I havent really had any really encounters with any dogs. But stuff like that I am sure will come. Just glad it didnt do anything. Cant wait to hear how the long run goes. Keep it up man.

From Clay on Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 14:21:19

I can't stand those DARN Dogs!!! I'm glad that your foot is doing better, and I hope your long run goes well tomorrow... I am thinking of doing 15 or so tomorrow, I don't know about 20, 15 is tough enough:-)

Good luck.

From Mike Warren on Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 14:39:49

Jeff, quit running with hamburger in your pockets! Glad to hear the foot is feeling better. Also, good to know you will be suffering on a long run tomorrow as well.

From JeffC on Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 14:53:14

Clay, I think 15 miles is a dang good distance for you at this point considering what you've been going through. I have heard that if you can get in a 17 mile long run, you can run a marathon. Maybe not as well as you would like, but you can finish. Besides, you know you are only coming to St. Goerge for the In-And-Out Burger after the race. :)

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WOW!!  What a glorious run today.  What huge confidence boost for my fitness and ability to finish a respectable marathon.  I set out with the goal today to run for 3 hours no matter the distance and run 5-10 of those miles right around my goal marathon pace of 7:28/mile.  I ended up running 23 miles and running 13 miles of what I will call marathon pace miles.  I won't take the time to record the splits but that the fastest mile was 7:21 and the slowest mile was 7:45 of the 13 marathon pace miles.  I think my average pace for those miles was right around 7:35/mile.  Felt good most of the way with no bad aches or pains to speak of.  The foot was pretty much a non-issue and isn't bothering me at all post run.  I did have my usual lower back and hip pains from time to time but they are tollerable.  I'm running in new territory now, I have never run more than one 20 miler in preparation for a marathon (this is number 2) and I have never run more than 20 miles in a training run.  Feels good to be getting it done.  Only two more hard weeks until the taper starts.  Then three agonizing weeks of waiting and healing.  Ended the monthe with 179 miles which is not too bad considering I had a couple of weeks with 35 and 8 miles.

Time:  3:05:42  8:04/mile

NB768 184.08 NB768 (new) 22.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:01:16

Jeff,

Awesome run! You are on your way to a great SGM, I can feel it!

Keep working hard!

From JD on Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 13:55:37

Hey I just stumbled onto your blog today by chance. Great run! I hope to be about where you are now by next year, though probably not as fast!

Nice going.

From Mike Warren on Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 14:11:08

Jeff, very encouraging run! Just think, it will be much easier running down the course. I will be testing that Vegas heat on Monday. Staying at the Worldmark with the family Sunday night. Very excited you had a good run. Quick question: Do you always do a 2 week taper? I have found, for me anyway a 1 week taper works best. I know everyone is different though.

From Tom on Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 14:15:55

Jeff this is a great run! Looks like the training is starting to kick in and you may be peaking at just the right time. Looking good for SGM!

From JeffC on Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 18:20:02

Mike, I will do the normal three week taper. My body really needs the reduced mileage before the big day and I think part of my success today was the prior two weeks of low mileage which gave my body a chance to heal up. I will try to have a max mileage week around 60 and then 48, 35, 20 marathon week.

From Dave S on Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 19:08:33

Jeff, that sounds awesome. Both the overall distance and the speed you did the 13 have to be a huge confidence builder. And with mininmal pain. Thats great to hear.

From Mark on Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 19:43:03

Great run Jeff! This is great news. You deserved a decent run after the setbacks, hopefully this is just the start!

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Simple recovery type run today.  Just a chance to do an inventory of any new aches and pains as a result of last Saturday's long run.  Everything felt surprisingly good today.  My stride felt smooth and none of the usual pains were giving me much trouble.  The plan for the week is to go around 55 miles and then around 60 next week and then a three week taper.

Late morning:  Did a 4 mile hike with the family up at Mt. Charleston.  We hiked to Mary Jane Falls and back, it's about a 1000 foot climb and obviously some nice downhill on the way back.  Nice and cool up on the hill with the hike going from 7800 to 8800 feet elevation.

Time:  1:01:44  8:49/mile

NB768 184.08 NB768 (new) 29.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Dave S on Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 17:31:20

Sounds like you came away from that big run in good shape. Are you going to do another on your 60 mile week.

From JeffC on Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 17:44:21

I would like to do another on the 60 mile week but we will just see how it goes.

From Mike Warren on Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 17:49:42

Good start to the week. I am scared to take an inventory! Good luck with the training.

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Just took it pretty easy today again.  The weather was cooler 73 degrees and it was bit windy.  Had some intervals on the agenda for today but scraped that due to the heavy legs and sore quads.  I think the quads were a bit sore due to our hike yesterday.  Didn't want to go out and really push the pace with my high risk of getting injured at the drop of a hat.  So we'll call it a general aerobic run.  Meg stopped after a mile and a half because her knee was bothering her.  She rode the bike and I went solo until she got home then she ran my last mile with me.  We gotta keep her healthy.  She has run three 20 milers in her build up and is so ready to break 3:30 at SGM.  If we can keep those knees of hers healthy for the next few weeks she will be on her way.

Time:  1:00:08  8:35/mile

NB768 184.08 NB768 (new) 36.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 14:52:51

Its always good to be cautious Jeff, keep up the good work and take of that wife of yours!

From huans32 on Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 15:30:42

Looks like you did great over the weekend. And nothing on that pesky foot. And hit your long run too. Great job man. Its funny how even going for a hike can make you sore. And you can run a marathon. Good job man.

From RivertonPaul on Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 17:25:54

Way to keep the forward progress going! As to the treadmills, I think the really good ones at the gym have had decline available for a few years, and even some of the nicer home models do. I admit, I much prefer running on the nicer treadmills at the gym than mine at home.

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A moderate level run today just to kinda test out the body and the legs.  Things felt better than yesterday although I do still seem to have a touch of tightness in my left hammy but I imagine that will be gone by tomorrow.  Picked it up for the last mile to somewhere in the 7:45 range and most of the other miles were in the 8:15-8:25 range.  I have totally given up on running any designed work outs this week.  I am planning to just see how the body feels each morning and go from there.  I have a tempor run on the calendar for tomorrow but maybe I'll make it a marathon pace run, we shall see.

Time:  58:14  8:19/mile

NB768 184.08 NB768 (new) 43.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Tom on Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 10:56:19

Glad to hear you're feeling better today compared to yesterday. I think your plan of just playing each day by ear, running by feel is smart.

From huans32 on Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 12:36:55

Wow what a get recovery man. You really are coming along great man. It is very inspiring to me to see you get closer to your goal. Your going to do awesome at SG. And another PR if all works out BQ. Keep up what your doing man. Its working.

From Cal on Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:45:53

It's great that you're feeling well. Good luck on your tempo run tomorrow.

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Pretty good work out today.  Not quite a tempo run but definately a marathon pace run.  Started off with a mile warm up and then kept the next 7 miles at or below marathon pace.  Average for those 7 miles was right around 7:25.  Cooled down with another slow mile and called it a day.  I don't very often go more than 7 miles on a week day so it felt good to squeeze in an extra couple of miles today.  With the marathon this close and just over a week until the taper starts I need all the extra work I can get.

Time:  1:09:07  7:41/mile

NB768 193.08 NB768 (new) 43.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Huans32 on Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 12:05:47

Great job man. Your looking prime for SG. Hope I can keep up with you this time. :)

From Clay on Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 13:22:08

Nice Tempo run Jeff! I agree you are on your way to a prime SGM, stay safe out there.

From Cal on Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 13:38:12

Great run today Jeff. You've got to be feeling pretty good about your fitness right now. Keep it up!

From JeffC on Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 13:55:55

To be honost guys, I'm a bit nervous. I do feel okay about my fitness, but I have never gone into a marathon with a specific time goal that I thought I might have a shot at reaching. Each of my past three marathons I have set the bar too low and was able to exceed my expectations. This may be the marathon where I set the bar too high and come up short. I need to quit making excuses for failure and just succeed.

From huans32 on Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 15:41:33

I think we all get a bit nervous. And this race is one you have been training for and working so hard to come into it health and strong. Keep up what your doing man. Because it will be the one you make your goal. The last few runs you have done is showing your getting primed for a BQ. Just keep listening to your body.

From Dave S on Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 16:53:34

Jeff, your training is looking real good for that BQ

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Just a simple and easy recovery run today.  Legs felt very dead at the start but eventually warmed up and felt great by the end.  Nothing exciting to report today.

Time:  1:02:30  8:56/mile

NB768 193.08 NB768 (new) 50.0  Saucony A2 11.9

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From huans32 on Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 09:20:44

Great job Jeff. Your legs should feel dead after the run you did yesterday. Just helps even that much more to keep it a recovery run. Great job man.

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Doing 19 miles looks very strange, I am well aware of that.  Oh well.  I had 17 on the menu for today and added a couple extra so I guess I should feel good about the effort even though I should have just done one more mile so I could call it 20.  Everything felt pretty good today except for some tightness in my left calf, and quad.  I think these past two week of high mileage by my standards is starting to get the best of me.  Was able to run a few miles in the low 8:00's today and felt pretty comfortable for the most part.  Had a little bit of dog trouble today, these dog owners are just killing me.  One more tough week to go before the taper starts.  I hope the body holds up for just one more week.

Time:  2:38:30 8:20/mile

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Comments
From Dave S on Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 01:24:52

That's great to get another 20 [almost] in the bank. Keep your fingers crossed for one more injury free week.

From Tom on Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 22:57:57

Hey I know just what you mean about this last week of peak training. Just hoping and praying that we survive the week in one piece and can coast through the last 2-3 weeks of taper and be ready to rock on race day. Good luck finding the perfect balance of training vs. rest.

From Mike Warren on Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 09:45:13

Jeff, the long runs will pay big. I really think that BQ is going to happen for you. Is this the best training effort you have had, leading to a marathon?

From Mark on Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 10:39:06

Be careful and hang in there for one more tough week then enjoy the taper. Do that and you you've got an almost guaranteed PR and a good shot at BQ also!

From Cal on Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 10:40:07

Good job on your long run! (I've done some 19's before too.)

Can you believe we're down to under 4 weeks to go 'til SGM?

Watch out for those dogs!

From JeffC on Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 11:15:06

Mike this is by far the best training I have had going into a marathon. I've only ever had one 20 miler going into any marathon and I hope to have 3 in the bank going into SGM.

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This is it!  This is the big week.  Looking to log 60 miles this week which will be a PR for me in weekly mileage, although not by much.  More importantly this will be my best training going into a marathon ever.  If it hadn't been for my foot a few weeks ago I would have made it through without any major ailments.  I suppose my body is just getting more and more used to the pounding or I am getting more tolerant of the pain.  I was surprised out how good everything felt today.  I am really noticing that my body is recovering more quickly from those long Saturday runs.

This weeks schedule should include some hills and some marathon pace or better miles on Tuesday and Thursday and then a long run on Saturday of 21 miles with some marathon pace miles mixed in there as well.  Haven't quite figured out what to do for the taper but I'm thinking of cutting back to about 50 miles the first week, 40 the second week and then 20-25 or so the week of the race.  I plan to mix in some marathon pace miles in during the taper on a limited basis as well just to keep everything sharp.  Any thoughts out there of how I should do this.  I'm not following a training schedule so I am just playing it by feel, taking each day as it comes.

Time:  1:01:59  8:51/mile

NB768 212.08 NB768 (new) 57.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From RivertonPaul on Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 12:01:59

Good luck with the Big Week! As to the taper, what I've been reading lately suggests that its important not to completely cut out workout days so your body doesn't get too lazy, but to cut back mileage which will give you the taper benefits. Some decent stuff on tapering is in the discussion forums.

From Dave S on Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 15:14:24

Sounds like a good plan to me. Like Paul said I would keep doing some workouts like those marathon pace miles you mentioned. Looks like you're right on track for a good one at St George.

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Today was hills day and we went out and ran our usual freeway overpass repeats.  I got in 4 repeats which is about 3.5 miles of hills.  I picked up the pace on the uphill and the downhill to really try and simulate the marathon pace.  Got back to the house in time to send my son off to seminary and then ran 2 more to cool down.  I am feeling a few aches and pains here and there but nothing major.  The downhill running is really rough on my old bones and tends to make the aches come out.  I haven't done a lot of hills in prep for SGM so I hope that doesn't prove to be my downfall.  I'm sure I will be one sore puppy on Sunday after the race.

Time:  1:13:14  8:08/mile

NB768 221.08 NB768 (new) 57.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Teena on Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 11:24:41

Jeff!! So glad to see you on here. Can hardly believe how many people I already know that have blogs.

Sounds like you got some good hillwork in today. I know exactly what you mean about the downhills. I'm still trying to work on better downhill running form. Any suggestions?

From Cal on Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 13:20:46

Great running on the hills today Jeff. Hopefully those aches are only temporary.

From RivertonPaul on Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 14:12:22

Good job. I need to do more Veyo simulations myself. Good reminder.

From JeffC on Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 15:43:27

Teena..I have no suggestions for running downhill......survive.....Some people say to just let yourself go but I can't do that, I feel too out of control and end up beating the heck out of my body. I just try to stay in control and land as lightly as possible.

From huans32 on Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 19:13:08

For the downhills I just try and run them smooth and relaxed. Hopefully not to fast. I try not to stop myself and not to go to fast that I try to break. So just inbetween works best for me.

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Simple recovery run today.  Everything felt pretty good with no major aches or pains from yesterdays hills.  Tomorrow will be 9 again with 7 at marathon pace or better.  Hopefully today was a good enough recovery to run a descent pace tomorrow.

Time:  1:00:57  8:42/mile

NB768 228.08 NB768 (new) 57.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Teena on Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 13:20:02

Nice recovery run. It looks like we will be running similar runs tomorrow ... albeit your run will be at a much faster pace! Can you believe that SG is right around the corner?? Crazy!

From Mike Warren on Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:19:22

Jeff, great job on the miles. Looks like your staying pretty healthy. You have been real smart with your running. This is your big mileage week right? 60?

From JeffC on Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:29:08

Mike, Yes this is the big week, 60 miles with 9, 7, and 21 on Saturday. I'm not sure how smart I've been, I guess we will see on October 4. I put alot of emphasis on staying healthy and less on training my guts out this time around. Hopefully the happy medium gets me to the starting line feeling healthy and well trained. It would be a marathon first for me.

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Wasn't sure what to expect from this run today.  Last night before bed I was starting to get congested and felt like I was finally going to catch my daughters cold that she has had for a couple weeks now.  I felt very worn out and sickish.  Well, every morning is a new day and surprisingly I felt pretty good when the alarm went off at 4:15.  I had some really weird random dreams last night though.....strange.  Anyway, by the time we started I still wasn't sure how I was going to approach this run so I decided to just get that first warm up mile out of the way and then go as far as I could at goal marathon pace or better.   Did the first couple of miles at slightly faster than marathon pace 7:18, 7:22, stopped in for a swig of gatorade and then decided to hit the next three at my tempo run pace.  The first tempo mile was 7:02 and I wanted to get at least one of the three at sub 7:00 so I did the next one in 6:55 and the third one at 6:55 as well.  Backed it off a little bit again for the last to marathon pace miles and they came in at 7:21, 7:12.  The cool down mile even came in at a pretty good pace for a cool down at 7:57.  I feel pretty good about this run and felt like I still had plenty of gas in the tank at the end.  This is really my last fast run of this distance before the marathon.  I feel like the few tempo runs that I have been able to manage during this training cycle have really helped improve my fitness and overall speed and economy.  Hopefully that translates into a fast run at SGM this year.

Time:  1:06:45  7:25/mile

NB768 237.08 NB768 (new) 57.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:08:06

Great job man. Your looking really good for SG. Is this being ran on a flat road or what?? You are looking really good for SG

From Cal on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:17:10

Great job Jeff. Those are some nice tempo times.

From JeffC on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:40:09

All my runs are on a flat road, flat as a pancake. That's why I go to the nearest freeway overpass to run my hills. There are hills in Vegas, just not very close to my house. I could probably run to some hills but I prefer to stay close to home in case there are any bathroom issues or kid issues. Plus it's nice to just leave my gatorade and water sitting in front of my house which I pass every 1.5 miles.

From huans32 on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:44:51

Ah very nice that explains alot really. I have to run down to the park to get anything flat. You are hitting the paces great on the flats. Dude I dont know if I will be able to keep up with you on the downhills now. :) Your seriously are looking great for a BQ.

From Dave S on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 14:33:58

Jeff, great run. Feeling like you had plenty more in the tank after is a good sign also. Everything seems to be falling into place for a great run at SG

From Teena on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 14:37:12

Way to nail your last fast run at that distance!! You are so ready. Also, thanks for the advice you have been giving me. I hugely appreciate it!! Say hi to Meg!! Is she on this blog anywhere?

From JeffC on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 14:54:42

Teena, Meg is not on the blog. I just can't get her to sit down for five minutes and do it. She is really a busy body and doesn't care to much about keeping track of her miles.

From RivertonPaul on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 15:52:10

Nicely done. Getting so close.

From Clay on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 16:03:42

Nice workout Jeff, you are going to have a great SGM!

Keep up the good work!

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Recovery run today, plain and simple.  Legs felt a little bit heavy but for the most part everything felt pretty good.  Hopefully things are shaping up well for the final 21 miler tomorrow.  Temps continue to go down every day as we hit 72 today at the beginning of our run.  It felt really good, but when you are used to running in 82 degree temps it almost feels chilly.  Just wait till the start of SGM when it's 35-40....ouch.  Nothing too exciting today, just glad I get to eat a few extra carbs....yum!

Time:  1:02:34  8:56/mile

NB768 237.08 NB768 (new) 64.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Teena on Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 14:00:46

Glad you had a good recovery run. I am very nervous about tomorrow's run because I usually take the day off before my long run. It'll be interesting to see how my body does. SG is so close. Crazy!

Enjoy your carbs!! :)

From JeffC on Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 14:28:11

Teena, I hope your long run goes well tomorrow too. After all that pressure we all put on you to run a few recovery miles today it better. I felt kinda bad being one putting some of the pressure on. If you have your routine together for the marathon it's probably not a great idea to upset that routine much at this point. Good luck, I look forward to reading your report tomorrow.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Big day today!  I reached many milestones today.  First, this run puts me just over 60 miles for the week which is my all time mileage PR for 6 days.  Second, this was my last long run before SGM, I've never run a 20 with only three weeks to go, like your supposed to do, I have always been injured or recovering from an injury.  Third, This make three 20+ mile runs during this training cycle which is also a PR for me, previously I have only ever managed one 20 miler per cycle.

Decided to run a medium pace long run today with the first 15 miles at about 8:30/mile and then try to pick it up on the tired legs and see if I could manage 7:28's for the last 6.2, kinda like the marathon minus 5 miles.  The first 11 miles went as planned then I decided to start brining the pace down each mile to kinda work into a faster pace before getting to 15.  Splits for 12-15 were:  8:20, 8:15, 8:12, 8:09.  Then it was time to see what the legs had left and I just went for it.  I was a little disappointed that I was not able to maintain my goal pace but I do feel good about the effort on none rested/tapered legs.  The splits for 16-21.2 were:  7:35, 7:40, 7:43, 7:45, 7:35, 7:43 and 7:26 for the last 0.2.  Hopefully the hills at SGM won't be the death of me but will be enough to push those few extra seconds faster so I can hit those splits late in the race.

I'm still working a little bit on the taper plan put I think the overall mileage will look something like 48 next week 36 the following week and then 20 in the 5 days before the marathon.  That will be similar to what I did going into Ogden this year and SGM last year, and they both ended up being PRs, so it can't be too far off base.

Time:  2:54:24  8:13/mile

NB768 258.28 NB768 (new) 64.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:02:07

Great long run Jeff, those are some great splits on tired legs. Awesome!

Keep working hard...

From Teena on Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 16:50:48

Jeff, you did so stinkin' awesome!! I can hardly wait to see how you do at SG!! Can't believe it's so close!!!! I still need to figure out what I am going to do these next few weeks as far as running. Wish I had it down like you. Seriously, super run.

From Mark on Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 23:09:08

Jeff, great set of PRs, a lot to be proud of. Just one more PR to go!

From Dave S on Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 00:51:35

Looking good. With a good taper and the downhill at SG I think your going to do great.

From Tom on Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 20:56:21

Great job on the run Jeff. It's so nice to get the last long-long run in the books and begin the taper. You should be set to do great at SGM, hope we get a chance to meet and chat a bit before or after.

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Took it nice and easy this morning.  Legs felt really heavy today and I am so glad we are finally into the taper weeks because I am starting to feel the whole body fatigue.  Less sleep today probably didn't help as I was up at 3:45 (half hour early) so I could get in my run and make to parents day for early morning seminary.  Looks like my son Michael has a great teacher and will hopefully have a really good year in seminary.  I think I have finally worked out my plan for the taper and it will look alot like what I have done for the past three weeks only with less miles.  Tuesday and Thursday will be hills and marathon/tempo miles with the other days as slower/recovery days with the usual, albiet shorter, long run on Saturday.  This Saturday I will do 15 and the following Saturday I will do 12.

As a side note.  I have been taking a prescription anti-inflammatory for the last 30 days which was for my foot problem that I was having at the time.  I took my last dose yesterday and hope to not need anymore anti-inflammatories until after SGM.  I have noticed today that the aches and pains are a little more noticable.  I guess the drugs were doing their job and now I get to suffer a bit during the taper.  Hopefully the reduced mileage and intensity will be enough to let the aches and pains heal on their own.  Time will tell.  Even though I seemed to have my taper all planned out by day, I am still going to play it by feel and see what the body will give me each day.  At this point there is no need to push it beyond the limits because the bulk of the trianing is done.

Time:  1:02:29  8:56/mile

NB768 265.28 NB768 (new) 64.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Teena on Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:28:54

And I thought I was up early!! Man Alive!! I still have to figure out my taper thing. I don't have a set plan yet ... probably not a good thing!! Nice job getting you run in bright and early ... actually, I'm sure it was dark and early!! In any case, nice job!!

From Clay on Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 13:55:03

Nice job today Jeff, I hope your taper goes as planned and the aches and pains subside:-D

From Mike Warren on Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 14:17:25

Jeff, good start to the week. By the way, great job on the BIG miles last week!

From JeffC on Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 15:31:41

Teena, overall plan is to listen to my body and see what it will give me. I really never know for sure what I will do on a given day until I get out on the road.

Clay, the aches and pains are pretty minor, so hopefully they won't cause any problems.

Mike, Thanks, same to you.

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Decided against the hill run today.  Meg's knee was bothering her a bit and I still have a few lingering aches and pains that I didn't want to irritate any further so we decided to stay on flat ground and just run a moderate pace run today.  We had a couple miles in her marathon pace range of 8:00/mile and the rest were pretty close to that.  My aches are in my left quad and hamstring.  I think they are related to my lower back issues and should clear up with the reduced mileage......hopefully.  Temperature was a nice 72 degrees this morning.  We are starting to come into the nicest part of the year in Vegas for running and outdoor activities.  It's still in the high 90's during the heat of the day but at least it is cooling off at night.  Couple more weeks and it will be simply perfect.

Time:  49:15  8:12/mile

 NB768 271.28 NB768 (new) 64.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Teena on Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:51:49

Glad you and Meg were able to get out and run together. Do you do most of your runs with Meg? Take care of all the aches and pains and tell Meg hello for me.

From JeffC on Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:06:01

Teena, yes we do many of our runs together. The only times we don't run together is on tempo/MP runs or we may get a little separated on a long run depending on how one or the other is feeling. Our neighborhood can be a little dicey in some areas so I don't like to venture too far away from her in the early morning darkness.

From Mike Warren on Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 23:13:10

Jeff, I hope all the aches go away. Of course, seems like aches and running go hand in hand. I am looking forward to your marathon. All the great training you have done. Hey, BQ or not, I know alot of our H.S. buddies have the old beer gut. Atleast were in pretty good shape.

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Just another fairly easy run today.  Until the body starts feeling really good again I am going to keep the pace on the moderate to slow side.  I did start feeling pretty good today around mile 5 to the end.  I think overall my aches and pains have diminished a bit since yesterday so hopefully that continues.  Ran in the newer shoes today so maybe that helped as well.  I have to go to scout camp again this weekend so I don't know when I'll get my long run in unless I go in the evening when it's really warm.  May end up just skipping it or running something shorter, probably wouldn't hurt much at this point.

Time:  59:57  8:34/mile

NB768 271.28 NB768 (new) 71.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Teena on Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:14:53

Very smart ... get rid of those aches and pains!! I'm sure scout camp will be nice and relaxing!! Yeah right!

What is Meg shooting for at SG?

From JeffC on Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:37:15

Meg is shooting for a 3:30.

From Teena on Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:41:33

Holy Cow!! She is AWESOME!!!

From RivertonPaul on Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:51:14

Hang in there, you are doing awesome. Just leave the scouts by themselves and run. (I'm mostly kidding.)

From Dave S on Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 13:33:07

Aren't you glad to be in your taper. Takes some of the pressure off of getting in every run on schedule.

From huans32 on Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 07:55:55

Good job man. Rest and heal up man. Just make sure your coming into this stong. Your doing Awesome.

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I'm starting to sound like a broken record, same course, same pace, still a little achey.  My foot that was hurting from a month or so ago is flaring back up a little bit so I started in on the anti inflammatories again to try and calm it down.  Felt okay for today's run but I will be icing it and taking it easy for the next couple of days, no sense pushing it at this point.

Time:  51:03  8:30/mile

NB768 277.28 NB768 (new) 71.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Mark on Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:03:22

Alright, another run out of the way, one day closer to SGM. Hang in there and take it easy as best you can.

From Tom on Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:12:56

Nice job playing it smart and taking it easy. We're all walking a fine line right now and need to err on the side of caution.

From Clay on Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:09:28

Way to listen to your body Jeff, your ready for SG so just take it easy and get healed up and be safe out there:-D

From huans32 on Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 19:29:07

Argh!! The foot flaring up again. Just rest it and take it easier man. Taper time oh yeah.

From Mike Warren on Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 00:39:43

Jeff, atleast your staying cocsistent. Whats your strategy for STG? What you lookin to hit halfway at?

From JeffC on Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:05:14

Mike, I have a weighted pace chart that was designed by a guy who has run multiple SGM's. So there is a set mile pace for every mile on the course based on uphill or downhill grade. I plan to hit halfway right around 1:39-1:40 and then obviously run a negative split 1:35-1:36 for the second half. I feel farily good that the first half is doable, I'm a little worried about holding the pace the rest of the way. If you want I can email you a copy of the excel spreadsheet just drop me a line at jdchatterton@yahoo.com.

From JeffC on Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:06:27

Mark...I just got my prescription refilled by my podiatrist and I am doing a bit of RICE so I am very confident that I will be good to go come race day.

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Woke up late and did what I could.  Probably a good thing I am taking it a little easier to give the foot a break.  Didn't even have time to stretch just went out and ran some really easy miles.  May try to get a few tomorrow evening after I get back from 11-year old scout camp.  Fun, fun....

Time:  26:40  8:53/mile

NB768 280.28 NB768 (new) 71.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Teena on Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 13:45:07

Have fun at scout camp ... and take care of that foot!!

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Got home from the scout cam dead tired and decided I didn't want to turn in a zero mileage day so went out for a night time run right before bed.  Just took it easy and tried to stay awake.

Time:  26:27  8:49/mile

NB768 283.28 NB768 (new) 71.0  Saucony A2 11.9

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Finally, a descent run again.  Everything felt pretty good.  Picked it up for the last mile to marathon pace but other than that kept it pretty simple.  Should be fairly easy running for the rest of this week with maybe a few hills and marathon pace miles mixed in here and there.

Time:  40:57  8:11/mile

NB768 286.28 NB768 (new) 71.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Tom on Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:01:07

Good to hear you're feeling good. Time to get all nice and healed and ready for a super race at SG.

From Mike Warren on Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:04:41

Sounds like the old body is ready to go. Stay healthy.

From RivertonPaul on Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:04:07

Looking good. Keep it up.

From Clay on Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:19:33

Keep up the good work and we will see you at SG...

From Dave S on Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:28:21

Sounds like your ready to go. Looks like your going to make it to the start line nice and healthy.

From Cal on Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 14:21:43

Keep up the good work Jeff and stay healthy!

From huans32 on Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 21:34:30

Great job man. Sounds like you are going to have a nice race in a few short days.

From Teena on Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 00:09:19

Nice, nice, nice!!

Less than two weeks!!

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Did a little bit of a tempo/marathon pace run this morning.  Warmed up with one and then picked it up to Meg's marathon pace for a couple of miles and then just below my marathon pace for the final two.  Everything felt pretty good this morning.  All the little aches and pains seem to be going away.  Hope it continues becuase I really need to get to the starting line very healthy to even have a shot at a BQ let alone a sub 3:30.

Time:  38:39  7:46/mile

NB768 286.28 NB768 (new) 76.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Clay on Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 13:03:47

Great workout this morning Jeff I think you are going to be primed for SG!

From Teena on Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 14:28:59

Glad to hear that the aches and pains are subsiding!!

You are going to own SG!!

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Took it easy today and just ran some very generic average paced miles.  The body continues to feel better every day which is a good sign.  All the little aches that have been bothering me continue to feel better and better.  Hopefully the trend continues until well into next week.  Getting to the starting line healthy is my number one goal and it looks like that just might happen this year for once.

Time:  42:37  8:31/mile

NB768 291.28 NB768 (new) 76.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Tom on Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:55:44

Glad to hear you're feeling better each day. Getting to the start line feeling healthy can be a major accomplishment in and of itself after all the hard training. Looks like you are on track for a great PR and BQ.

From Andy on Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:43:57

That's great that you are getting better each day. We're almost there!

From Teena on Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 14:17:29

This is your year Jeff!!

Can hardly wait.

From Clay on Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 14:47:13

I agree with everything that has been said Jeff, you deserve this! Its almost here:-)

From Dave S on Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 16:54:33

Looks like everything is falling into place for a great race.

From huans32 on Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 21:53:03

Right on man. It is good to hear your having some good days and coming into this race healthy. We are going to get under 3:30 I am sure. And have a great shot at that BQ.

From Mike Warren on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:30:56

What about starting with the 3:10 group? Central to Veyo is pretty easy. If its too fast slow and recover through Veyo and Dammeron. If were feeling good, take the training wheels off after veyo hill and catch the sub 3 group.

From JeffC on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:00:41

Mike...ther is no way I could starr with the 3:10 group and stick with them through Dammeron and hope to have enough at the end to finish strong. I have only run 3 marathons but I know what I feel like the last 6 miles and I will have nothing left if I go out too fast. I may have nothing left regardless of how fast I go out.

I've got my pace chart all figured out and I'm going to stick to it for as long as I can and hang on until the end.

You should definatly consider going for your sub 3 hour. You are a much better runner than I am and your training these last few weeks has been incredible. I think you would have a really good shot.

From Mike Warren on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:15:12

Jeff, sub 3 is not really an option for me. I will run with the 3:10 as long as possible. I was in sub 3 shape back in Feb, but the stress fracture said no. Really, I will be very happy with a 3:15. I think you have trained hard enough for the BQ.

We did a 23 mile training run. I started really slow, 8:30's. Ran the Veyo Hill and Dammeron, 8:00's. When I got to the big drop at Diamond Valley we turned it on. Avg pace was under BQ. I am no expert, but if you run smart the first 13, I will bet the farm, you BQ. Sorry for the novel.

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Ran three miles at marathon pace today.  It seemed too hard.  I donated blood last Friday and am probably still feeling the effects, in fact it may have cost me a shot at a BQ in the marathon.  I have heard differing stories about donating blood while training, I just hope I can feel better running at marathon pace on race day than I did today.  I have also had some stomache issues the last couple of days and the problem may be related to that as well.  I'm sure the combination of the two isn't helping me right now.  As of today the confidence is pretty low for a BQ but I still think I have a good shot at going under 3:30.

Time:  38:58  7:48/mile

NB768 291.28 NB768 (new) 81.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Mike Warren on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:04:59

I think its just the transition from hard running to taper. My runs have felt hard lately too. We will be ready to rumble marathon day.

From Tom on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:05:53

This probably isn't what you want to hear, but last time I donated blood in the middle of a training cycle it took me about 3-4 weeks to fully recover.

On the other hand most people I've talked to said they recovered in 1-2 weeks so you'll probably be OK but I think it's safe to say that your workouts this week have been affected. Just keep enjoying the taper, getting good sleep, visualize good things happening at SGM, and everything should come together pretty well for you. I think your still looking really good for the BQ.

From Cal on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:14:40

I've had some good and bad experiences with blood donation during the marathon season. (I actually had a PR marathon time within 10 days of giving blood once... But I wouldn't do it again!)

Hopefully you'll be ok, and with 2 full weeks in between you should be. Stay positive and run smart!

From JeffC on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:22:07

Thanks for sharing your experiences guys, it helps to know what others have done. I will be running a couple of miles next week at marathon pace and I think that will be a good gauge of where I am at. We'll see how it goes.

From Clay on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 14:02:15

Jeff you nut... I still think you will be okay to BQ, you did a good thing donating blood but next time wait until after the marathon to be so giving;-) HaHa. Hang in there, I believe in good karma so one good deed deserves another.

Be safe out there!

From RivertonPaul on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 14:08:40

Keep positive, we all have doubts when we are going after goals!

From huans32 on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 16:59:12

I have donated 2 times this yr and both before races. One only a few days before Bryce Canyon. And had a PR there and also other was a marathon. But that was like 9 days out. Dont know if it effected Ogden much. But I am sure it didnt for the half. Just make sure to drink plenty of fluid and you should be fine man.

From Dave S on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 18:20:40

It's only been 6 days since you donated and 9 until SG. One thing for sure is you will be more recovered for the race than you are today. You'll do great.

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Same distance, different day.  Only six more runs until the big show.  Tomorrow I'm looking at going 11 and making it a dress rehearsal of the marathon.  Same cloths, same, shoes, yada yada yada.  I'm going to throw in some (5-6) MP miles in the middle of that run tomorrow just to keep the legs from going stale and to evaluate how it feels compared to yesterdays run.  I continue to feel better and better each day so I know the taper is working.  It feels good not to be trashing my legs every day.

Time:  42:40  8:32/mile

NB768 296.28 NB768 (new) 81.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From RivertonPaul on Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:10:55

Good plan for tomorrow. I think its important to do some MP miles, even if they feel a bit hard. Still plenty of time to recover from a mildly difficult run. Time to break out the Body Glide too.

From JeffC on Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:30:49

Ahhhh yes, the body glide. I dont' usually break it out unless I am doing 20 or so. Still ought to break it out tomorrow for the fun of it.

From Dave S on Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 14:32:42

Feeling better each day. You can't ask for more than that.

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Rain........yes I said rain just in case you couldn't believe it.  We didn't get much but we did get enough to make us wet during our run and then it was humid the rest of the way.  The temp for this mornings run was 79 degrees and muggy.  I thought we were almost through with the hot temps but I guess not.  I hope this is not a sign of things to come next week at SGM.  The run went pretty good today.  It did still feel way too hard for what I was doing but it felt better than last Thursdays 3 mile MP run which is all I can ask I guess.  Started out with 3 fairly easy miles and then picked it up to 7:28 pace for the next 6 miles.  I think the average for those miles actually came out to be around 7:30/mile (like I said, it was a bit of a struggle).  Had a little pain in my left hip which has been on and off for the last couple of weeks.  Nothing real bad, but enough to make me notice.  I think taking it fairly easy next week will help it to feel a lot better before the big day.  Finished the run with a couple of slower miles and called it good.  Can't believe we are only a week away.

Time:  1:27:05  7:55/mile

NB768 296.28 NB768 (new) 92.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Rest.

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Well, with 5 days to go we are keeping it really simple.  This week will just be putting in a few nice easy runs and hopefully get everything feeling really good for Saturday.  The warm weather down here in the southwest doesn't seem to be letting up any time soon so we could be in for a warmer than usual SGM this year.

Time:  41:49  8:22/mile

NB768 301.28 NB768 (new) 92.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Mike Warren on Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 15:37:53

Did you get all the aches and pains gone? The weather actually looks pretty good for Sat. You being use to Vegas, will probley freeze.

From JeffC on Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 16:08:05

I've given up on getting rid of all the aches and pains, I've concluded that it just comes along with running.

I know we will be cold up in Central before the race, I can handle that. It's when the sun comes up and it starts getting really warm that I'm a bit worried about.

From huans32 on Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 18:12:44

LOL the sun heating you up?? Man we are going to be done before the sun is going to really bother us man. Your going to do great man. All that training in the warmer/hotter temps will really help you out man.

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Just keeping it slow for the rest of the week.  Nothing really exciting to report, just trying to stay calm before the big day.

Time:  44:48  8:58/mile

NB768 301.28 NB768 (new) 97.0  Saucony A2 11.9

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Just winding it down now for the big day.  Felt suprisingly good today.  The past two weeks I have suffered from a bit of fatigue during my runs, even in the first mile.  Legs just felt weak and tired.  Today I felt no fatigue, so I am hoping that I have rounded the corner and am ready for a good run at SGM.  The next two days will be nice and easy 3 milers and I will be sleeping in on Friday morning before we drive up to St. George because I know I won't sleep well Friday night before the race.

Time:  34:46  8:41/mile

NB768 305.28 NB768 (new) 97.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Cal on Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 11:10:33

I'm happy that you're feeling good Jeff. You'll be ready to go for Saturday!

From huans32 on Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 11:12:05

Awesome man. I am really looking forward to this. I know I have said it a few times. But it just makes it that much better to see you are coming into this in great form. We both seem to be looking good coming into it.

From JeffC on Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 11:39:15

How are you feeling Cal?

From Cal on Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 11:44:18

I feel much improved. (not 100% by any means, but better than last week) I'm doing a test run later this afternoon which will likely determine my plans for Saturday.

From Mark on Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 11:53:16

I'm not sure when you were planning to head up to St. George, but wanted to wish you good luck!

From Dave S on Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 11:55:46

That sounds great Jeff. Two more easy days and your legs will be hard to hold back.

From Clay on Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 12:52:40

Its nice to hear that you are turning the corner, I know you will have a great race Jeff! I hope to see you while we are down at least at the starting line or the finish, which ever...

From Mike Warren on Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 13:52:44

Jeff, glad to hear your doing well. It will be fun on Sat no matter. Look forward to seeing you.

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Another nice easy run today.  Added a couple of short striders and then did a quarter mile strider at marathon pace just for fun.  Eating more carbs and drinking a little extra water in the next couple days.  Gotta love the carbs.

Time:  26:09  8:43/mile

NB768 305.28 NB768 (new) 100.0  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From RivertonPaul on Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 12:09:58

Have a safe trip. You will do so well.

From huans32 on Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 12:14:34

Right on man sounds alot like my run. I will give you a call a bit later so we can figure some stuff out for the race.

From Dave.S on Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 12:15:57

Carbs are great. Jeff, I'm thinking on starting with 3:15 in mind. I'd love to hook up with your group at the start. Let me know how to find you.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Just a couple of nice easy miles today to wake up the legs.  Too bad the marathon wasn't today, it was beautiful morning in Vegas and I assume it was just as nice in St. George.  Looks like we could be in for a chance of rain and some possible head winds but hopefully the morning will be pleasant and the storms will hole off for a few hours.

Time:  17:43  8:52/mile

NB768 307.28 NB768 (new) 100.0  Saucony A2 11.9

 

Race: St. George Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:29:48, Place overall: 606, Place in age division: 128
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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That was a tough run to say the least!


Had some hopes of trying for a BQ (3:15) this year but had lots of lingering doubt too. (I probably need to work a little on my mental toughness and positive thinking) Decided I would go out and at least make an attempt from the start and see what happened. To make a long story short it didn't happen due to more factors than just the wind and rain. I did however PR and of that I am very proud.


Here are the splits for my posterity and anyone interested:

1 - 7:54
2 - 7:37
3 - 7:14
4 - 7:01
5 - 7:10
6 - 7:06
7 - 7:11
8 - 8:32
9 - 8:26
10 - 8:09
11 - 8:13
12 - 7:58
13 - 7:40
14 - 7:54
15 - 7:29
16 - 7:31
17 - 8:07
18 - 8:02
19 - 8:53
20 - 8:15
21 - 8:05
22 - 8:38
23 - 8:36
24 - 8:22
25 - 8:43
26 - 8:40
.26 - 2:10

I was glad to make it through with no miles in the 9:00/mile range, although that was in jeopardy during mile 19. Wished a few of those later miles could have been in the sub 8:00/mile range but fatigue got the better of me. Ended up not making one POP stop and I drank something at every aid station except mile 24. That makes two marathons in a row with no POP stops. Although if I had needed to go number 1 today I wouldn't have needed a POP or a bush for that matter......could have just let it go and no one would have known the difference.....it was THAT wet!

Didn't realize it until after the finish but I had bloody nipples. Thank godness I was wearing a slightly darker shirt and that the kid in the clothing pick-up area found my bag really fast so I could cover up that mess. I don't think any amount of body glide was going to help prevent that on a day like today. As I was running past Snow Canyon I was thinking to myself, I wouldn't be any more wet if I had just jumped in a swimming pool. Jumping in a pool and then running a marathon don't make for a good combo when trying to prevent the bloody nips. Should have grabbed that vasaline at mile 20 someting, may have helped the problem......oh well. Believe me, I can feel them now and they hurt like heck. I have kindly been told to "SUCK IT UP" by my wife who nursed all four of our kids and says she is well aware of what I am going through. I imagine some of you mothers can relate.....sheeeesh!

Final thoughts:
It was great to be part of history (2nd rain out in 32 years) but I hope I never have to go through that crap again!
I will use vaseline at the first sign of any pain in the nipple area! OUCH!
I enjoyed the girls screaming somewhere during mile 24-25. It made me think of what it might be like running Boston and passing the Wellesley college girls. There were probably only 4 or 5 girls but they were screaming their lungs out.
I Couldn't beleive the incredible crowd support that came out on a day like today to cheer on the runners with cowbells and high fives, that is why I love SGM, INCREDIBLE!
It was so great to run with Mark, even if only for a very brief time, the road was mighty lonely after he dropped back. We'll try again next time Mark.

NB768 307.28 NB768 (new) 126.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Tom on Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 04:53:35

Jeff congrats on gutting this ugly one out! Sounds like your experience is pretty much similar to most the rest of us. You know we probably could have gone out more conservative and cut off another 5 minutes or so but hey...we had goals in mind (BQ for you, sub-3 for me) and some times you just have to go for it regardless of those factors we can't control. I mean what's the fun in going for BQ+5minutes or a 3:05?

I think we all learned some mental toughness that will steel our will to come back again and claim the prize that Mother Nature in a fit of PMS decided to take away from us this year. WE WILL PREVAIL!!!

And hey sometime I need to actually meet you in person.

From Andy on Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:18:34

Great job on the PR. Even though it wasn't the BQ you wanted it looks like you ran as well as the day would let you.

From Mark on Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 10:47:17

Great job pulling off a significant PR on such a horrible day! You had good splits overall (with a few pretty fast ones thrown in there)and never fell apart. That right there is definitely some mental toughness.

From Cal on Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:12:25

Congrats on the PR Jeff! As long as you're improving thats the most important thing. There will be better days and more chances for your BQ. Maybe at Ogden, or sooner? Stay tough and train well this winter.

From Clay on Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:42:31

Nice job on the PR Jeff, it was well earned and don't get to down on the BQ it will come:-) It was nice to see you at the start I wish we could have chatted longer, but we were all just trying to stay dry and warm...

I hope to see you again sometime and maybe go on a run together, take care out there and be safe!!!

From Dave S on Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 19:55:36

Jeff, great job. That was a tough day to PR. It wasn't a good day for anyone to run their best. Didn't you PR Ogden too. You keep getting faster and that BQ is coming. 3:30 is a BQ for my age group. Sorry we didn't get a chance to meet up. I had a hectic day thursday trying to get some things taken care of before I left and didn't get your message. One of these races it will happen. Maybe Painters.

From RivertonPaul on Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 13:03:37

Great perspective, after the fact. Keep plugging along and good things will happen as well as more PRs. I enjoy your blogs, too bad we didn't meet in person. Guess it will have to wait for another time.

From Mike Warren on Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 01:17:15

Jeff, sorry about my delay in commenting. I am very proud of you for the PR! Really a 3:29 in those conditions no doubt you have the 3:15 in you. It was nice to see you for a brief second along the way. Not the best time I have had in a race. Are you considering any Dec marathons?

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Just a nice easy day of rest.  Beginning to feel the muscle soreness in the quads and calfs that is our gift from SGM.

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Just walked today.  Quads are pretty tight but I expect them to be feeling pretty good by tomorrow.  Meg and I walked about 2.5 miles at a fairly slow walk.  I may try to run tomorrow or Wednesday if things get feeling better.

NB768 309.78 NB768 (new) 126.26  Saucony A2 11.9

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Feeling better today but still decided to keep the pace at a walk.  Meg and I walked 3 miles.  We are hoping to go for a run tomorrow if the sore quads agree.

NB768 309.78 NB768 (new) 129.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 08:58:22

Thought about walking some too. Just had enough at work moving around and such that it seemed good enough. Besides had alot of catch up to do on other things. Hopefully you will be good to go again. What training are you going to follow this time??

From JeffC on Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:17:40

Mark..I don't use a set training plan anymore. I have kind of adopted my own methods that seem to work for me. I will probably work my way back up to 7-8 miles per day with a tempo run and either some hills or speed once a week. Then I will do my usual Saturday long run.

I am planning to run either the LV Marathon or the CIM in California in a couple of months. CIM is supposed to be pretty fast and a buddy of mine almost has me talked into it. We'll see what happens.

What's up next for you?

From huans32 on Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 10:44:24

Doing the runner series down in SG area. And Ogden will be next big goal race. So might do the Winter running series that Striders puts on for that. Will see man. I was hearing alot of good things about LVM just not sure if I am up for that one.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Four really slow, not so easy miles this morning.  Just took it really easy but looked really good in my ALL black attire including the new SGM shirt that actually fits.  Probably not the smartest attire to be wearing in the morning darkness.  Quads and calfs are feeling better but still a day or two away from being back to normal.  Man those downhills really beat me up since nearly all of my miles are on the flat.

Time:  38:30  9:38/mile

NB768 313.78 NB768 (new) 129.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 10:41:52

Great job man. Out and hitting it already. I think each races beats us up differently. And you and Meg did great. How much of a PR was SG this yr for you btw??

From Teena on Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 14:00:21

Suave and sleek!! Isn't that why we all run? :)

I love black shirts!! :)

From JeffC on Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 14:32:32

Mark...SGM was a 10 min PR over SGM 2007 and a 7 min PR over Ogden 2008.

Teena...I don't think Suave and sleek are two words I would use to describe myself at all. My comment about looking good in the black shirt was a stretch...

From huans32 on Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 18:11:36

Then you should be quite happy then too. That is a great improvement. Sure we didnt hit our big goal on that one. But we are getting closer that is for sure.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Another slow easy run today.  Legs are feeling much much better todady.  Actually felt like I could have done more, a lot more, but know that this week and probably the next couple of weeks need to stay really easy.  Temps here in Vegas are finally starting to cool off in the mornings.  This morning it was around 65 and by the weekend the morning lows might be in the 40s, what happened to fall?  Might have to start breaking out some of the long sleeve shirts by the weekend.

Time:  44:56  8:59/mile

NB768 318.78 NB768 (new) 129.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Rhett on Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:11:57

I had the same feeling this morning that I might have to wear long sleves soon. Looks like you are recovering well from SGM.

From RivertonPaul on Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:28:12

Glad you are recovering well.

From huans32 on Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:56:53

Good job man. Hard to hold back and recovery. It is almost worse then tapering really. Wanting to go more or faster. But knowing it would be best to just recovery. And the good thing is you can start sporting that new long sleeve shirt even that much sooner.

From Teena on Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 14:56:17

Jeff, you are so smart when it comes to running. I have no idea what I am doing. I can't believe that you are running another marathon so soon!! I don't have any idea how you all do that.

Glad that you are feeling so good.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Uping the mileage a bit each day but keeping it pretty slow.  Legs still don't feel totally fresh but I think that is to be expected.  Temps were in the mid 60s today and it was pretty windy.  The wind used to bother me much more than it does now, I would rather run in some pretty strong winds than miss a run altogether, am I an addict or what?!?

Time:  53:04  8:51/mile

NB768 318.78 NB768 (new) 135.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

Windy day today and temps were at 48 degrees, coldest of the year so far.  I imagine with the wind chill we were probably in the low 40s.  Everything felt really good today despite the less than ideal weather.  I ran with gloves and a stocking cap and was able to stay warm enough once I got going.  Legs didn't feel much fatigue and I felt like I had it in me to go faster but resisted the urge and kept the pace pretty conservative.  It's tough to hold back when the legs want to go and everything feels good.

Meg and I are officially entered to run the Las Vegas marathon.  She isn't sure if she will actually run but I think she will train with me just in case.  Her knee has been bothering her since the marathon, so today I ran solo while she did the elyptical.  She has been diligent about icing and taking ibuprofen so hopefully she will be good to go on Monday.  I think the 9 weeks between SGM and LVM should be plenty of time to recover, build and taper for LVM on December 7.

Time:  1:24:05  8:24/mile

NB768 328.78 NB768 (new) 135.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Dave S on Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 16:08:53

It sounds like you are recovering good from SG. Did you sign up for the runners series?

How did Meg do in the marathon?

From JeffC on Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 16:28:28

Yes, Meg and I are both in the runners series. Luckily I was sitting at my desk the second it opened and got us both in.

Meg finished in 3:42, which is another BQ for her but is 12 minutes shy of her 3:30 goal. In good weather I know she is there, she ran a 3:34 last year.

From Teena on Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 16:55:43

Jeff --

Nice run!! So, you're getting a little chill over there, huh?

I completely forgot to register for the series until it was too late. Stink!! Hopefully I'll get lucky and make the lottery.

You are so diehard to be running another marathon already!! Can't wait to hear how it goes.

From Mark on Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 19:16:30

LV marathon sounds like a lot of fun. Hopefully you'll get the weather you deserve and a new PR!

From JeffC on Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 21:26:49

Mark...I don't think LVM is a PR type course. It is pretty flat for the most part and they usually have the wind factor involved coming from one direction or another. Maybe if the everything lines up just right there might be a PR, we'll just see

Teena..I just need to run the LV marathon once before Devine racing screws it up for good and they don't have it anymore. Not diehard, just a bit goofy. And yes, it's chilly, but it's supposed to warm back up a bit next week.....ahhhhhhh.

From RivertonPaul on Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 22:51:30

Maybe you will luck out and get a tail wind for Vegas.

From Cal on Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 16:19:01

I've heard a lot of rumors about LVM still not being a done deal (funding, permits, etc.) Is there any official news about it taking place for sure?

(I'm considering going out there for the 1/2 if I recover from my injury in time)

From JeffC on Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 19:42:09

Cal...I haven't heard anything about the marathon. I was over at the marathon office last week and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. I hope it's still on cause I'm planning on it. If devine cancels it, good luck getting any refunds...

From Teena on Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 20:31:51

Jeff --

"Diehard?" "Goofy?" Really ... is there and difference?

You boys!!!

From Teena on Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 23:35:29

(Okay, so I tried to "edit" my mis-spelled word ... but it wouldn't let me ... what am I doing wrong?) This is what I meant to say:

"Diehard," "Goofy ..." Really ... is there ANY difference?

You Boys!!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Rest.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Another chilly windy day today.  Winds were a little stronger than on Saturday but the temps were about the same at 49 degrees.  Felt good once you got going but it was pretty cold for us Las Vegas wimps.  It's supposed to warm up a bit more every day this week and the winds are supposed to subside.so I look forward to that. 

The run felt pretty good for the most part but the Garmin was off on the very first mile so I ended up running at least an extra 10th of a mile at the end.  Since we were so anxious to get started this morning with the wind and cold we probably didn't let the Garmin's lock on to enough satelites before starting the run.  My Garmin has been acting a little funky ever since the monsoon marathon so I guess I should be glad that at least it survived.  For a while there after the marathon it wouldn't even power on so I was afraid it was a gonner.  Slowly but surely all the functions seem to have come back but it still seems a bit off.

PM - Went with the family to the Y.  While the family swam I went to the weight room and was lost as to what I should do.  Jumped on a bike for a few minutes to warm up then moved around to 3-4 machines to work some upper body areas, then jumped on the treadmill for a mile, probably didn't need that.  All in all, not a bad little workout for a guy who really needs to strengthen his core and upper body.

Time:  53:16  8:53/mile

NB768 334.78 NB768 (new) 135.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:34:55

That is a good run man. And under similar conditions as to our race. Why didnt we have more like that in our training? As for your Garmin mine has been acting up alot too. I cant get it to download the workouts and says I need to call in. So I am sure charging it and running. How is the other RdRunner doing?? She all recovered?

From Clay on Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 15:19:06

Good job getting out this morning Jeff, my Garmin 305 gave up the ghost after the SGM. The water got in there and then after I powered it off and then back on again it just fried it! I lost all my splits for the race and everything else I had on there, oh well live and learn!

The sad thing is Garmin said tough luck, so I just had to eat it...

From Teena on Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 15:20:13

Man ... I just don't know how you are surviving in those horrible Vegas conditions!! :)

Nice run!

From JeffC on Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 15:29:23

Mark...Meg is doing okay but she is still struggling with some knee pain. She had to pull up after a couple of miles today and go in to use the elyptical. Hopefully she'll be back at it soon.

Clay...That was my biggest fear when my Garmin went dead, that I would lose my SGM splits. I'm sorry to hear you lived my biggest fear. I thought these dang things were supposed to be waterproof to some extent?!?!

Teena...hey we are pretty wimpy down here. If we don't get perfect weather every day we cry about it. Last year, on a day like today, I would have slept in. Now I can't live without my daily dose of endorphins.

From Clay on Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 15:40:08

According to Garmin they can only take about 30 minutes of wetness and I had 3 hours and 43 minutes of wetness!!!

From huans32 on Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:27:24

LOL ya I dont even dear to use a Ipod. I am sure I would sweat it to death too. I think Lark had the problem for a while and got it solved with plugging the holes in the back of his Garmin. I think he got some coating put on. And works fine now he said.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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I'm starting to sound like a broken record.  Same run, same pace, same time, a bit chilly and a little less windy.  Supposed to warm back up by the end of the week and that sounds good to me.  Ran 3 with Meg and 3 solo as her knee was bothering her again.

Time:  52:21  8:43/mile

NB768 334.78 NB768 (new) 141.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Teena on Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:09:44

Isn't consistency the goal??? You are awesome!! Btw ... what exactly is "chilly" in Vegas?

I sure hope Meg's knee starts behaving. Does she know what is wrong?

From JeffC on Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:19:50

Consistency is the goal for sure! I am just glad I am able to get out and put in the miles with no really bad injuries. Chilly in Las Vegas today was 52 degrees and breezy. I know it's pretty warm by West Jordan standards but when you are used to running in 80+ degrees all summer long, 52 is chilly.

Meg's knee will most likely come around, she has had trouble on and off over the years. She has had MRI's in the past only to reveal some inflammation and tendonitis. I think if she takes it easy for the next couple of weeks she should be back to normal, we'll see.

From Dave S on Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:52:32

52 degrees burrrr. [ha ha]

It sounds like you came through the marathon without aggravating anything. Thats great.

From huans32 on Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 15:03:03

Ya so true Dave. I am glad to hear he didnt end up with anything either. I really think you have done a great job with preparing for SG and coming into it health. To bad we didnt get the results we wanted on race day though. What when are you going to start up with training for Ogden again?? Or did you find another big race before that?? Wish I could of kept up with you in the race so we could of talked more training stuff.:)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Today was a perfect day for running.  The temp was 53 degrees and there was no wind to speak of.  It was a little chilly at the start but I was sweating by the end.  Still keeping the pace slow and the effort fairly easy.

Time:  50:52  8:29/mile

NB768 334.78 NB768 (new) 141.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 13:00:18

Right on. Finally your getting perfect weather. Enjoy it man. If all goes well Ogden will be perfect yet again for us.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Same story different day.  I had been taking anti-inflammatories leading up to the marathon and then for a week after the marathon.  I stopped taking them last Sunday and have been feeling a few more aches and pains since then.  Today, however, things felt a bit better so I am hoping I won't need to rely on those dang pills as much.  Hopefully if I can continue to take it easy the body will be able to heal on it's own.

I can't believe what a wimp I am.  I lifted some weights at the YMCA on Monday night and I am still feeling the effects today in my bicepts, shoulders and chest.  I really need to get on a routine of strength training.  I can't believe how weak my upper body has become.

Time:  50:45  8:28/mile

NB768 334.78 NB768 (new) 147.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:51:22

Nah its not weak for say. Just something new you havent done for a while. Its good to shock the system. But just start into a bit easier and it wont be quite as bad. As I am about to incorparate more of that kind of training. I will just start with 2 reps for a couple weeks then work up to 3. And its a good kind of sore. Right on man.

From Dave S on Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 13:25:53

That's great that your feeling that good so soon after the marathon. You're smart to keep it easy and get completly healed.

From Teena on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 00:22:14

Glad your off the anti-inflammatories!! That's a great sign!!

Nice run today!!!

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Same run as every other day this week.  The healing continues.  Meg was feeling well enough to join me for 5 of the 6 miles today and it was a nice change to running solo every day.  It sure helps to have someone by your side to take your mind off the task at hand a little bit.

Time:  50:58  8:30/mile

NB768 340.78 NB768 (new) 147.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From huans32 on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:02:02

That is great. Glad she is feeling better and you have someone to run with. It sure does help to pass the time. Any smaller races coming up for you bro?? Turkey trots or what not?

From JeffC on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:02:05

No "smaller" races coming up, just VOF and LVM in November and December? What about you? Are you coming down for VOF in November?

From huans32 on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:08:28

Its not a fast course is one the reasons I am opting not to do it. If I wanted to get in another attempt at BQing. How is LVM? Isn't that one mostly flat? I will most likely just do the runner series next with some small ones. Before Ogden.

From huans32 on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:14:38

And I dont knwo about LVM but VoF isnt a BQer. I am tempted to do do that CIM though. I just need to look into it more.

From JeffC on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:17:13

LVM is very flat, it has a about a 300 ft climb in the first half and a 300 ft descent in the second half. It starts and ends at the Mandalay Bay. There may be a few small bumps in the road here and there but no major hills at all. If we could get some good weather it could be a pretty fast course but the last three years have been fairly poor weather. I'm just running it because I live here and have never run it before. I have no BQ aspirations for LVM, we'll just see what the day brings and how the training goes between now and then.

From JeffC on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:20:40

I've heard CIM is fast but it isn't faster than SGM and is fairly flat also. I am only running the half at VOF and treating it solely as a training run since LVM is two weeks later. VOF marathon is definately not a BQ course unless you're superman.

From JeffC on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:21:18

Actually I don't think VOF is a BQ race even if you are superman!

From huans32 on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:50:37

So no really goal at LVM?? With how your have been doing in your training lately. You might be able to pick up another PR. Ya looks like there is a hill at LVM but mostly flat. Hmmm

From Cal on Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 16:18:23

Good running Jeff and Meg.

(Man there are a lot of acronyms flying back and forth today!)

From Teena on Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 00:43:50

Hey Jeff!! (Any chance your real name is Jeffrey?? Love the name "Jeffrey," my neighbor's name is Jeff but I call him "Jeffrey." -- like you really care!! :) )

Alright, what I really wanted to say is: Nice run and glad to hear that Meg's knee is feeling better!!

From Smooth on Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 15:22:51

Dear Jeff --

My 2nd son is Jeffrey. I called him "FeeFee" when he was a baby. I promise I won't call you that. LOL

Good to hear you're recovered and Meg could join you for a nice run. I really envied couples who run together.

What's on your race schedule now with the mild climate there down south? You're in top marathon shape to reap some PRs.

BEST wishes,

Smooth

From rhett on Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 15:40:35

Jeff,

Your getting in lots of good recovery miles. What's the next race for you? For some reason I can't get you on my list of favorite blogs. I've tried like 5 times and it just doesn't show up. Do you have me locked out or something? LOL Anyways I just go through Smooth's blog to get to yours. Keep up the good running.

From JeffC on Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 15:45:57

Rhett:

Try adding my name again. I just checked my settings and it looks like I had a couple of things messed up so you should be able to add me as JeffC. Sorry about that. Let me know if it works or not. The next race for me is VOF half and then I am planning to do the Las Vegas Maraton in December.

Smooth..you can call me anything you like, I have been called much worse thank "FeeFee."

From JeffC on Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 15:47:06

Teena:

My real name is Jeffrey but it's rarly used unless I am in trouble with my wife or mom. :)

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Too many aches and pains last night and today so I decided to pack it in for the day and will probably take a few more days off just to let things settle down and hopefully heal up.  Nothing major, just a few things that don't seem to be getting better while I continue to run.

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Feeling better today but opted not to run again.  I have had a few nagging pains that just keep nagging and never get better so maybe a few days off will get me back in the groove.  We'll just take it a day at a time at this point.

Comments
From huans32 on Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 15:56:02

Great idea man. I feel so much better after taking most of that week off. You will come back stronger then before. Rest up man.

From Smooth on Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 16:13:23

Rest is good. Have you tried yoga?

From huans32 on Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:01:27

Looks like no post yet for Tues. Hope things are feeling better for you bro.

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Just continuing to chill for another day.

Comments
From Teena on Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:43:36

Hope you are enjoying the chilling!! :)

From JeffC on Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:57:07

Chilling is Good!! Once in a while.

Just read about your spill last Saturday on your blog, hope you are feeling better. I also read about your shin related injury. I used to get shin splints on the inside of my shins quite a bit and notice they flare up a little when I push the pace or miles. Whenever they flare up I usually just back off for a few days and they seem to feel better. Not sure if that is what you have but that's my two cents.

From huans32 on Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 16:02:26

Ya that is just what mine was too Jeff. Glad your taking a break man. You need to sometimes as hard as it might be.

From Smooth on Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 17:27:39

"Chill young, die old." Something I made up just to say hello, Jeff. Hope your day is good.

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Another day off.

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Finally Back at it again.  Felt pretty good today.  Not smooth but not as many aches and pains as before.  Finally logged a sub 8:00 mile in training since the marathon.  It wasn't pretty but made it through.  A couple of cats scared the heck out of us this morning at a spot where we have dealt with dogs before, we thought it was another dog coming for us.....whew!  Dang Cats!!

Time:  50:05  8:21/mile

NB768 340.78 NB768 (new) 153.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Smooth on Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23:28

WooHoo!!! Nicely done Jeff. So HAPPY that you're out beating the pavement again, and you're saying goodbye to the aches and pains. You'll just get even better from here on out. This time of year, there seem to be more scatty cats out there spooking people...must be getting ready for Halloween. :)

From Dave S on Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 13:37:43

Gotta watch those cats. It was a cat that got me last summer. Sounds like that break may have been just what the doctor ordered. Hope those aches and pains continue getting better.

From JeffC on Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 14:22:20

I wish I could say goodbye to the aches and pains. I still feel them, but I've got a marathon in a few weeks so really don't have much more time for a break. I think it helped, but I'm not cured.

Dave, I thought your cat was some kind of wild cat. My cat encounter was with two wimpy house cats that just caught me by surprise.

From rhett on Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 14:34:35

You are still within the 26 day recovery period of the marathon. I few aches are to be expected. I have been so tierd lately. I've been sleeping like 9 to 10 hours at night. I think that is my bodies way of recovering. I have an MD friend who was telling me the other day that after running a marathon, your body has the same amount of some chemical in it as people who just had a massive heart attack.

From Kathie on Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 14:36:43

Hey I am glad you are on here too. I really have not left the other forum but I need this to keep my training on track. Just today I wanted to cut it short but knew I needed to log the run and so I kept going. I think this will keep me more "honest" with my training.

Is your next race VOF?

From JeffC on Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 14:50:01

Kathie..None of us left the forum, we just use this to log our runs. My next race/run (not really going to race) is VOF half. Will you be there too?

Rhett..Unforunately I am having the same aches and pains I was having before the marathon. So recovery from the marathon probably won't solve my problem, although I think it will help ease the pain.

From Kathie on Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 19:52:56

No I will not be doing VOF gas prices are just too high to justify it to the hubby right now. Is Meg doing it with you (I hope I remembered your wifes name right)

From JeffC on Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 20:19:33

Yes, Meg is right and she is planning on doing it with me. We're pretty much joined at the hip when it comes to running races. I don't know if I will get her to follow through with her Las Vegas Marathon commitment though. I am planning to run for sure but she doesn't want to run on Sunday and I am the devil so we'll see who wins. HE, HE, HE!!!

From Kathie on Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 23:38:16

I need to get you to talk to my husband, I want to get the googy medal at Disney World but he doesn't want me to run on Sunday. I am not sure if I really want to run on sunday eather but it would be noce to have a "devil" tell me it is ok! I hope you win!

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Wow, two days in a row.  I guess I better enjoy it now because I might not make it out tomorrow unless I get really gung ho and decided to run at scout camp.  I think I have had enough camping for the year.  Luckily my 11 year olds have done all there required camping and I won't need to go camping for several months.  I enjoy camping, it just messes up the running schedule.  Oh well, whatcha gonna do?

Everything felt pretty good today.  I plan to start increasing my daily runs to 7 or 8 miles next week to start ramping up again for Las Vegas Marathon.  I really need to do 15 tomorrow, but like I said, not sure if it will happen.  In order to get in a couple of 20s before the marathon I need to make them next week and a couple weeks after that before the so called taper.  I'm still in reverse taper mode, not sure if I am ready to build and then taper in a few more weeks.  Sounds like too much work.

Time:  49:35  8:16/mile

 NB768 346.78 NB768 (new) 153.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From RivertonPaul on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:38:15

Good job at not pressing it.

From huans32 on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:48:23

Yeah your doing your own grand slam. Good job in getting 2 good runs together. Times spent with your boys like that though is time well spent in my book.

From JeffC on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:51:57

Mark...these are not my boys, these are other parents boys, I'm just the ringleader.....uh, I mean asst. scoutmaster.

From Kathie on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 13:02:36

Hey some of my best runs were at girls camp. sometime I will have to tell you about the run with the bear! I say go for it at scout camp!

From Dave S on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 13:25:30

Wow Jeff, It seams like you're at scout camp every time you turn around. I wish my 11 year old son was in your group. He has been 11 for 10 months and hasn't had one camp. There is only one other boy his age in our ward and I guess his leader figures it's not worth it for just 2 boys.

From JeffC on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 13:48:07

I only have two boys in my troop too. This was not a campout planned by the ward, it was a camporee planned by our scouting district. If it wasn't for our stake getting us signed up I wouldn't be going. Luckily it's very close to home and I think it should be pretty laid back. In fact we won't even be there most of the night tonight because our ward is doing it's annual haunted house for the stake and all the scouts want to be there for that, so who knows when we will actutally get to camping anyway.

From Smooth on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 14:05:58

District camporees are fun. The boys will be occupied with their merit badge activities. I'd go run if I were you.

When's the Las Vegas Marathon again? How many weeks between SGM and LVM? Do you really need to do couple of 20's in there? Tell me more. Inquiry mind wants to know.

From Teena on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 14:20:48

Nicely done Jeffrey!!! :)

Sorry ... nicely done Jeff!!!

Have fun at scout camp ... AGAIN!!

From JeffC on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 15:15:05

Smooth...LVM is Dec 7 so about 9 weeks between the marathons. I figure I need at least one 20 miler and maybe two just for the extra umph! No merit badges at this Camporee. They are doing a big service project today and then a bunch of competitions tomorrow. Should be fun, but I wish there were more scout related stuff for passing off requirements or merit badges.

From Smooth on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 15:51:16

9 weeks between marathons is perfect. Enough time to recover from the 1st, ramp it up again before tapering for the 2nd. And it looks like you have some nice weather down there now for great running.

In my book, good scout leaders are Godsend. And you're one of them!!! It helps to have a supportive wife too...'cause she can't come along for the fun.

From JeffC on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 15:55:26

She is a very supportive wife, she is helping me drive some of the boys today. What an Angel.

From Scouter on Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 16:56:38

Look, its Jeff:

http://www.scoutingbooks.com/miva/graphics/00000001/Scoutmaster.jpg

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Was able to get out finally after scout camp.  Hottest part of the day.  Wanted to go at least 10 but my heart rate was in the 180s by mile 8 and I was overheating so decided to call it a day.  Glad I was able to at least get a run in, had my doubts, but got it done.  I was surprised at how easy my pace felt.  I may have been pushing too hard and that may have caused my overheating, may have been the sun and 85 degree temps as well......

Time:  1:04:33 8:04/mile

NB768 346.78 NB768 (new) 161.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From Kathie on Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:22:40

Oh I hate to run in the heat! I am not sure how you guys do it! I am glad your pace felt easy.

From Teena on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:13:58

How in the world could you run so fast in that heat!! No way, no how, no where would I ever even attempt such nonsense!! I tried to run in the middle of the day once when it was roughly 85 degrees, planned on going 6 miles, quit at 3!!!! NUTS I TELL YOU!!! You Vegas Runners are insane!!

Nice run ... especially after Scout Camp!!!

From Smooth on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 16:36:47

My scout salute to you, Jeff!!! Hey, you got it done after scout camp, in the hottest part of the day and at a nice clipping pace. Great training for VOF, never know how hot it might get in them dessert. I'm too wimpy to go run in the middle of the day with that kinda of temp. Take a nice rest today.

From huans32 on Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:40:04

Great run there man. Glad you were able to get in some good fast miles too after your camping trip. Sounds like your recovering well too.

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Since so many people that ran SGM are starting to do tempo runs and faster miles, I decided to jump on the band wagon today and do a short 3 mile tempo run just to see how it felt.  I was kinda wimping out on what pace I thought I should run those miles.  At first I was thinking I would just do marathon pace miles but as I got going, I decided to try and do true tempo pace miles.  After a three mile warm up I got into the tempo pace and settled into a pretty good rhythm.  Splits came in at 6:50, 6:53 and 6:55.  Cooled off with two more easy miles and called it good.  The morning running weather here has been simply perfect and looks to continue for the rest of this week too.  We are usually in the high 50s and get up to the mid 80s during the day, which is way above our average of mid 70s.

6 weeks until LVM so it is time to get serious again about a solid build up and a couple of 20 milers.  The plan is to do 20 this Saturday and then 17-18 the next week and then 20+ in three weeks and then the usual 3 week taper.  Hopefully with enough duct tape and glue I can hold my body together for one more marathon this year.

Time:  1:02:29  7:49/mile

NB768 354.78 NB768 (new) 161.26  Saucony A2 11.9

Comments
From DoG on Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:07:36

Jeff, good luck at the LVM. That's another one of my goal marathons. Maybe in a couple of years.

Those are some pretty fast splits you had this morning.

From Cal on Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:15:19

Great tempo run Jeff! I'm impressed (and a bit jealous...)

Sounds like a great time of year to be running in Vegas.

From Dave S on Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:04:32

Nice run

From Smooth on Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:17:17

Hey Jeff!!!

Looks like you're back in the groove. Nice tempo run.

I like your plan for LVM. Just make sure you put in enough rest days there and you'll have no need for the duct tape and glue.

From Kathie on Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:52:18

Hey you can do almost anything with duct tape but I am not sure putting and injured body is back together is one of them. by the look of your splits I would think you are doing well though. Keep it up and good luck at LVM.

Are you trying to BQ there or just finish?

From Clay on Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 13:23:16

Your an animal Jeff! Keep up the good work, and be careful out there;-)

From JeffC on Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 14:08:37

DoG...Welcome to the blog. I'll let you know how LVM turns out, I've heard many bad things about the organization (Devine Racing) so the jury is still out on this one. I'm going in with no expectations, maybe that is a good thing, I may be pleasently surprised.

Cal...come on down, the weather is great!

Dave...Thanks

Smooth...rest days? No rest for the wicked!

Kathie...Maybe not duct tape but anti inflams work well. I don't think a BQ is possible for me on that course but I will try to run it as fast as I can. Don't know if that means a PR or just a respectable finish.

Clay...I'm always careful, well most of the time.

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I love the new shoe tracking addition to the blog.  Now I don't have to copy and paste my shoe entry every day   wooohooo!!

Just took it easy today and enjoyed a nice run with Meg.  She told me today that she will not be running Vegas for sure so I guess I will be doing this one solo.  I sure hope the race day weather is like it has been this week.  Today was perfect again with a temp of 60 and no wind at all.  I'm sure things will change by then but it sure is nice right now.  We steadily picked up the pace each mile today and finished our last couple of miles right in the 8:00/mile range....and it felt really good.

Time:  58:35  8:22/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 7.00
Comments
From Teena on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:49:11

Sorry that Meg is not running the marathon with you. That stinks!! You will do so well though. I'm so excited for you. Is there an online tracking deal for us spectators at home?

From clay on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:18:43

Nice job on the run this morning Jeff, I wish I was feeling better physically and I would come down and run it with you, but I have to many aches and pains!

Good luck with your training, your doing great;-)

From Rhett on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:19:21

That is cool that you get to run with your wife so much. Do you guys have kids? In a few more years, mine should be old enough that my wife and I can go running together and leave them alone for a bit.

From JeffC on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:54:21

We have 4 kids with the oldest being 14. He is waiting outside every morning when we finish our run, waiting for his ride to seminary. The rest of the kids are still asleep when we get home. We are usually out the door by 4:45 and done by around 5:45 or 6:00. It's really the only time that works for both of us and gives us a few moments of peace before the day starts. We also stay very close to home running around inside our develpment on a loop that is 1.45 miles. We are never more than a couple minutes from the house in any direction and the kids know where to find us if there is a problem. Almost 3 years and no problems....knock on wood.

From Smooth on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 14:30:44

I noticed your shoe mileage tracking on your blog. I can't seem to find mine. I wonder if it's b/c I don't have the Moxzilla Firefox for those functions to show up on mine.

Anyway, great run with your wife. I admire couples who can run together. Is she going to LVM to cheer you though?

From JeffC on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 14:37:45

Smooth...once you log in to the blog and are at the calendar view screen there is an option on the left of the screen for shoe tracker or something like that. Best invention ever!!

Meg will be getting me to the starting line and cheering me on during the race.

From Smooth on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 14:59:27

Hey Jeff, it works, THANKS!!!

I notice there're whole bunch of stuff there on the left. I need to pay more attention.

How fun. Meg is a great "athletic supporter"!!! LOL

Is the Vegas Strip on the course? I ran that strip several times over a March weekend in 2006 when I was there to watch the Mountain West Basketball tournament. At the time I knew of you and Pron8r, so I was thinking about you Vegas runners. How many times have you run LVM?

From JeffC on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 15:14:03

Yes, she is a great athletic supporter! She gets to take on the role I had for several years while supporting her at her races. :)

The Vegas strip is the start of the course and it runs all the way from Mandalay Bay at the south to Fremont (old downtown) at the north. Then it just heads west and loops around through some pretty boring residential areas and finishes back at the Mandalay Bay. I have never run LVM, this may be my only running of the event since I typically don't run on Sunday but I live here, so really wanted to do it.

From Smooth on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 15:37:21

O, I meant to say 2007 was when I ran there. I suppose in the LVM, you don't have to run up and down those stairs leading to the crosswalks, and no porn cards strewn all over. I actually liked running those steps and loved the boardwalks in front of Treasure Islands and the music coming from the Bellagio.

I ran from Luxor to Fremont and back on Friday morning for an 8 miler. Then on Sat. morning I did that again but twice on each side of the road (on the sidewalks of course) and a little beyond to make a 17 miler. I would love to run LVM...but MY athletic supporter kindly discourages me from it...yah Sunday, darn.

From Kathie on Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 19:44:34

Jeff I would love to have my hubby run with me and I am always trying to get him too but he never will! At the same time he is trying to get me to golf with him but I just don't see the point, maybe if I ran between holes?

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Decided to do some GMP miles today.  Started out with a couple of miles warm up and intended to do 4 miles at 7:28 or better but ended up doing 5 at that pace and then cooled off with a couple of slower miles.  Things are starting to feel good again.  Hopefully that will continue through this three week build up to LVM.  Weather was warmer again today with a starting temp at 67 degrees.  Supposed to be back down in the high 50s for the lows this weekend so maybe the weather will finally start to shift to more fall like temps.

Time:  1:09:55  7:46/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 9.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:27:24

Jeff, you are an animal just like Mark. Way to go.

From Mark on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:00:35

Looks like this pace is getting easier for you. Good run today!

From Kathie on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:44:32

Does meg run that pace with you? You are and animal - that BQ is comming I just know it!

From Rhett on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:30:55

So what is your goal time for LVM? Are going to try and BQ?

From JeffC on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:35:17

Kathie...Meg doesn't run that pace with me, I have to go solo, and it's not nearly as much fun.

From JeffC on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:37:12

Rhett...I am pretty sure a BQ is out of the question at LVM, but if the weather is good and the planets align I would like to shoot for the 3:30 range which would be comparable to my SGM time.

From Clay on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 13:13:33

Nice job on the run this morning Jeff, its good to see that you are recovering nicely...

From huans32 on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 13:14:13

Very nice job man. You are always improving. I hope you do well down in your hometown. Keep it up.

From RivertonPaul on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 13:48:31

Good workout.

From Smooth on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 15:50:36

Looks like you're 100% recovered and things are feeling good for ya. Your training and the weather will just get better and better leading up to LVM.

From Teena on Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 17:39:08

Man Alive!!! That is a sweet run Jeff!!

Any time you plan on running a specific amount of miles at a fast pace and end up running more than you had planned ... well ... that is just awesome!!

So nice!!

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Took it a bit easier this morning and kept the pace at a moderate level.  Ran with Meg most of the way and and had lots of great conversation.  Another beautiful morning for running, 60 degrees and no wind.....simpliciamente perfetto.

Time:  1:06:38  8:20/mile

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Comments
From Rhett on Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:55:51

Oh what a beautiful morning, Oh what a beautiful day! I hope the rest of your day is as good as your run was.

From Dave S on Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:03:10

Your training's looking good. That weather sounds nice.

From huans32 on Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:56:39

Nice. Sounds like the perfect run. Any run with your wife should be cherished. Your getting in some great miles for the week too.

From Teena on Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 15:35:46

Just reading about your run felt awesome!! Sounds like perfect conditions!!

From Smooth on Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:18:31

Simply beautiful run with your beautiful wife is priceless.

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Intended to take it pretty easy this morning but following the "hard easy" principle it was time for a little more hard work today.  Decided to do a one mile time trial just for fun this morning.  After a three mile warm up I started the mile,  man I'm slow.  I would like to think I am capable of a 6 minute mile but was only able to manage a 6:15 this morning.  I'm not sure what my problem is, but I'm sure I could come up with pleanty of excuses.  Anyway, once that was over I just settled into a nice easy rhythm and finished off the miles hoping to save something for tomorrows long run.  Weather was great again, even on the warm side at 66 and overcast.

Time:  1:06:10  8:16/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 8.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:30:18

Jeff....So 6:15 is slow, huh? Good one. Anyway, it sounds like a good run you had today. I'm trying to get into the habit of running multiple days in a row. Lately it's been every other day.

Dale

From Clay on Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:34:54

I don't think your slow, if you are then I'm turtle slow! Good job on the workout;-D

From JeffC on Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:35:38

DoG...I guess I don't think it's slow I just feel like I should be able to run faster for where I am at. Good luck with running every day. It will take some time to build up to that but once you get there you WILL notice a difference.

From Smooth on Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 13:02:53

Hey Jeff!!! you're SPEEDY in my book any day.

Good planning to save something for the next work out. How many are you running for Sat.? Looks like the weather is co-operating for ya.

From DonGardinero on Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 14:13:34

Jeff...Well, no matter what, I think you'll tear it up at LVM.

Dale

From Tom on Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 15:06:35

Jeff don't sweat the mile. I know every time I've done a 1-mile time trial I'm always disappointed how little difference there is between my 5K race pace and what I can for 1 mile in a non-race environment. Just keep up on the great mileage base and train like you've been doing and you'll continue to improve at all distances.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
20.000.0020.00

The plans in getting ready for LVM include a 20 miler this week and another in two weeks.  So today was the first of the big nasties.  My original plans included going out and warming up for a few miles and then hitting some marathon pace miles to finish it off.  I decided to scrap the marathon pace miles and stick closer to the 10-20% slower rule based on this high mileage week.  So during the course of running I decided I would at least run the second half faster than the first half.  The first 10 came in at 1:22:45 and the second 10 came in at 1:20:59 for a 1:46 negative split.  One of my many weaknesses in the marathon is fading off really bad toward the end so I really wanted to buckle down and concentrate on running at least an even split and I accomplished better than that today.  Overall I am happy with the run and have no worries about being ready for LVM in 5 weeks.  Just keep the injury bug away, thank you very much.

This concludes only my second 60 mile week ever, glad to be done with it.

Time:  2:43:44  8:11/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 20.00
Comments
From Cal on Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 11:52:35

Nice run and a great mileage week!

From huans32 on Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:24:07

Wow very nice job man. Great job on your 2nd half being stronger then your first. You are looking very good going into LVM keep it up.

From Teena on Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 14:34:49

Man Alive Jeffrey!! What an awesome run. Amazing how you were able to do that at the end of such a high mileage week. You are SO ready!!

From Mark on Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 16:17:45

Wow, you are definitely back into full training mode. Great run and great week.

From Dave S on Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 17:50:33

Nice run Jeff. That's a great pace for a 20 miler. Almost your SGM pace and on flat ground. You might be closer to that BQ at LVM than you think.

From DonGardinero on Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 23:02:04

Very impressive Jeff. 60 miles in one week is unbelievable!!! Way to go man!!!

From Smooth on Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 17:41:01

AWESOME 20 miler. Negative splits, very impressive pace and a high mileage week. Yep, you are ready for LVM. Keep my fingers cross for any bug to stay away.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Rest.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

Just an easy 8 today.  Took it pretty easy today, still feeling a little muscle sorness and fatigue from Saturday's 20 miler but not bad.  Actually felt much better than I thought I would today.  It was nice to see the sunrise today.  With the time change the sun is finally coming up by the time we are finishing our run.  It finally cooled off here over the weekend and our morning low was below 60 (56) with no wind.

Time:  1:08:00  8:30/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 8.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 11:07:18

Jeff...Yes, it's always nice when we move the clocks back. I feel like a new person today and I didn't even struggle getting out of bed.

Dale

From huans32 on Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 11:09:38

Nice and cool run. That is a great temp for running. I am hoping that when I get out tonight that I will have temps even close to that. Great job on your 20 too.

From Smooth on Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 13:03:00

NICE recovery run. I love that extra hour of sleep and the rest from Sunday. It's so rejuvenating. Looks like you're starting off to a good week.

From Teena on Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:34:06

Jeff,

Very nice run (especially after your 20-miler).

Did you sing any MC Hammer???

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.004.008.00

Tempo run today.  Decided to up the tempo miles from 3 to 4 this week and slipped on the racing flats to see if that made any difference.  I think they definately helped mentally and I'm sure they also helped physically because those things are feather light.  After a two mile warm up I started on the the 4 mile tempo and ran the following splits:  6:53, 6:47, 6:48, 6:45.  I actaully kept the speed up until 6.2 miles so I could see my 10K time which was right at 45:30.  Nothing to write home about but not bad for having two slow warm up miles.  I was a bit worried at the start of this run becuase I still felt some soreness and fatigue in the legs but once I got going, I didn't really notice any problems other than sucking air.  Temp was 58 and the wind was very light.

Time:  1:00:44  7:35/mile

Saucony A2 Miles: 8.00
Comments
From Dave S on Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:55:41

Man you've been puttin together some nice runs the last 2 weeks and staying healthy at the same time [I assume].

From Mark on Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:08:58

Great run! Always nice to go out and hit the paces you want.

From DonGardinero on Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:23:52

Jeff...Way to go man. No wonder your legs felt tired with all the miles you've been putting in. Mine were the same way today, but as you said, they started feeling better later in the run.

By the way, I often hear people talking about racing flats. How are the different from regular running shoes? Are they the kinds of shoes we see track runners wearing?

Dale

From JeffC on Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:50:16

Dave..I am staying healthy, cross your fingers. I am never completely pain free but it's not unbearable either, so I am good.

Dale..racing flats are really light weight running shoes. They pretty much look like any other running shoes (not track spikes), except mine are bright red, I call them my ruby slippers. If you click on the link for my Saucony shoe above you can see what they look like and read about them. I've never worn them in a race except for one leg of the WBR 2008. I only use them for speed work or tempo runs on rare occasion. I would like to use them more in 5 and 10k's, we'll see how that goes.

From Kathie on Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 13:47:25

Jeff - You are so fast I can't your times are getting so fast! What pace do you have to run to BQ?

From JeffC on Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 13:57:25

7:28/mile or 3:15:59

From Smooth on Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 23:00:53

AWESOME 10K tempo run. You're hitting those splits nicely. Very cool ruby slippers, just like what the elites wear. Keep it up. You're churning out some impressive workouts.

From Smooth on Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 23:01:52

That's an AWESOME 10K tempo run. Very COOL "rubby slippers", the ones elites wear at marathons. Keep it up. You're churning out some impressive splits.

From Tom on Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:10:51

Nice job on the tempo run Jeff. Seems like you are heading toward another major breakthrough and will be seeing lots of new PRs in the coming months.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

It was a bit more chilly this morning (50) than it has been the past few weeks and we had the wind to contend with.  Luckily it was a recovery day so we just took it fairly easy and enjoyed a nice run despite the wind and cold.

Time:  1:06:59  8:22/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 8.00
Comments
From RivertonPaul on Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:31:22

That's the winds of change you were feeling. Portend of things to come. :)

From JeffC on Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 12:09:54

Portend? Man you are a wordsmith! I knew what it meant but I had to look it up to be sure. Is that a common legal word or something? You are an attorney right? Which firm do you work for? Sorry for all the questions, I have an attorney friend I just found out is up in that area and is a partner at Dorsey and Whitney, his name is Alan Bell.

From Smooth on Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 13:31:13

Nice run. I assume "we" is "you and Meg". You just gave me an idea: I think I'll do my recovery days with Wendy. Are you doing any xtraining?

From JeffC on Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 13:51:43

Smooth..yes we is always Meg and I. Every day is pretty much "we" at least for the first few miles. I do exactly zero cross training. It would probably do me some good, but I'm lazy and never go the Y to workout or do a spin class. We often have kids things going on in the evening as well. When I get a free evening I usually chill. I may do some crunches now and then 1-2/week. I definatly stretch often every day if that counts for anything. But that is it, besides pounding out a run every day.

From Teena on Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 23:49:06

Jeff,

Even your recovery runs are fast. You are going to own LVM!!

Nicely done!!!

From huans32 on Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 11:02:41

Great run man. Nice recovery run. Wind is the only thing I really hate about running well its not as bad in running as it is in cycling. So at least we have it easy that way. Keep up the good work.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
1.008.009.00

Goal marathon pace miles today.  Original plan was to go 8 miles with 6 marathon pace, but once I got going I decided to mix it up a bit.  After a one mile warm up with Meg I started into the marathon pace miles with the goal to keep all remaining miles under 7:28/mile.  As I started to click off the faster miles I decided that since I had the time I would go 9 miles and run 8 at marathon pace since I need all the practice at GMP that I can get.  Things went really well.  I feel like I am learning to relax a little better at that pace.  I can't say that 7:28/mile is easy, but my body seems more able to put up with it for longer.  In other words there is a level of pain going that speed, but the pain doesn't really get much worse as I progress through the run.  Does that make sense?  Anyway, mission accomplished.  All 8 miles were 7:28 or better.  Colder yet again today, 47 with a light breeze, but it felt better than yesterday.

Time:  1:07:58  7:33/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 9.00
Comments
From Dave S on Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:48:40

Jeff, great run. I know exactly what you mean about the pain level not getting worse. A good sign of your fitness level which is probably going to be even better going into LVM than it was for SGM. It seems like you're in the middle of a real good stretch of training.

From DonGardinero on Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 13:12:19

Jeff, you manimal!!! Sounds like you're going to have a great race at LVM. I still can't even fathom running as many miles as you per week, but I'll probably get there someday.

From Kathie on Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 13:42:29

Hey I am just learning about the pain thing too. I guess when you are running fast there will always be some pain. My son who is on the Xcountry team always tells me if your not in pain then you're just jogging and I guess he is right STINK! (to quote Teena)

From Smooth on Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 14:59:35

That's an awesome run. Gotta love it when you can run better/farther than planned at marathon pace. Your training is coming along fabulously. Looking to PR at LVM, eh?

From Teena on Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 00:16:14

Jeff,

Holy smack!! That is some serious running. You have got to feel good about that!! You are so ready!!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

Nice, easy recovery day.  Twas a beautiful morning today and it felt really good to just be out running.  Hopefully these recovery miles do the trick in time for tomorrow run because I am starting to get a bit worn out.  I know I have only been at these higher miles for a couple of weeks now but coming off one marathon and getting ready for another is hard work.  I am starting to understand a tiny bit what it takes to run the grand slam up in Utah.  Don't know if I would have it in me to keep it going all year long.  Temp was 50 and the winds were fairly light today.

Time:  1:08:41  8:35/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 8.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:52:05

Great run Jeff. How many more long runs do you have before the marathon?

I'm running the Grand Slam next year. I'll be interesting to see how I hold up until the end.

From Smooth on Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 14:35:34

Hey Jeff, when I saw the "8" for recovery day, I thought: "what in the world?" But then I realized you're building to peak.

I know the feeling well after coming off a marathon, then building back up for another one. There were 26 days between Boston and Ogden for me this year and it wasn't too bad. The build up between Ogden and DesNews was a bit taxing. By the end of the Slam year, with 2 weeks b/w TOU and SGM I was in recovery and maintenance mode. I learned (and I should credit this to Pron8r) that it's better to run less miles, concentrate more on the quality than quantity. His reasoning is: "you know you can cover the distance. You've already run a marathon and have the endurance. You don't need to run a ton to beat up your body." Does it make sense? Anyway, you don't need my advice. I'm just thinking out loud.

From JeffC on Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 15:03:26

Smooth..thanks for the advice...and no I don't know what I am doing. My idea of a recovery run has become more about slowing down than the miles. I know I can cover the distance of a marathon but I am trying to push the fatigue factor "The Wall" back as far as possible so I can maintain my speed closer to the finish of the marathon. I figure the added miles will build more endurance, so I keep pounding out the miles, some days fast, some days slow. I'm not following a training plan per se, I am just going with what my body will give me and try to incorporate runs from all the training plans I have looked at, Tempo, Marathon Pace, Intervals, Long Run, and Recovery. I hate the stress of sticking to a plan and feeling that I have to push my body beyond what I think I can do on a given day. I feel like in the past that has contributed to some of my injuries. So bottom line, I go by feel and by what I think I know (which ain't much). Then I hope for the best on race day.

From Smooth on Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 16:48:34

Jeff -- I'm wondering about the theory of "pushing the wall" back as far as possible too. I totally agree with you about blindly following a training plan. We HAVE to listen to our bodies, go by feel. Afterall who knows your body better than yourself. There is such a fine line between training to our fullest potential and pushing over the limit. With that said, you KNOW more than you think. You are doing so well. You're running faster and staying injury-free. And that's the bottom line of a successful training.

I think my problem with this year's Slam was I just run myself to the ground. I didn't give myself time to fully recover. For the grace of God, I was lucky that I didn't have any major injury, just my speed has suffered. I'm still trying to figure out the quality vs quantity thing. Sorry for rambling. Keep up the good work. I am most interested in following your training. I have SO MUCH to learn. Gotta go pack now. Have a GREAT weekend.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.006.0017.00

I'm finally getting around to blogging this run.  What a blaugh run!!  Legs just felt dead for the first several miles.  I was really dragging along at a bout an 8:40 pace when I finally decided to give myself a kick in the butt and get moving.  Surprisingly this fater pace seemed to help.  I don't know that I have ever experienced faster running feeling better than plodding along but I really needed a change of pace.  So I ran the last 8 miles better than 8:15 pace with the last 6 at better than 8:00 pace and the last mile at 7:09.  Was gunning to finish the run under 2:21 on that last mile and just squeeked it in.  One more week of these heavy miles and then I will start the taper.

Time:  2:20:54  8:17/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 17.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 21:29:01

Jeff...You deserve a lot of rest on the taper after all the work you've put in. 58 miles this week!!! Great job.

Dale

From Smooth on Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 00:22:18

Hey, negative splits and strong finish. How'd you do that? Do you think it was a mental thing? Did you run solo? I've gotta hand it to you. GREAT long run. You are working so hard and so focus. WAY TO GO, Jeff!!!

From JeffC on Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 00:48:07

Smooth...I ran solo for the last 6-7 miles. I don't know how I did it, it just happened.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Rest.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

Well, this is the start of the big nasty week.  Started off pretty well.  Felt really good for most of the run today and probably ran it a little quicker than I should have considering Mondays are usually my semi-recovery days.  Oh well, I ran at a pace that felt comfortable.  Plan for the week is to run 9s every day and then a 20 or more on Saturday.  Plan to run a tempo run on Tuesday and a marathon pace run on Thursday with a slow days inbetween.  I was really starting to feel the fatigue at the end of last week so I hope I can make it through this week.  I was surprised at how well I felt today considering my tired week last week.  Weather continues to be very good with the temp this morning at 49 and a very light breeze out of the east.

Time:  1:12:40  8:04/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 9.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:55:37

Jeff...

Great "slow" run today. Man, the weather down there is almost the same as way up here.

Dale

From Kathie on Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:59:10

Hey Jeff if this is your tough week don't forget to get extra sleep and boost your vitamin C intake! I know during my tough week before SGM I sometimes went to bed at 8:00. This gave my teenagers plenty to tease me about!

From JeffC on Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 13:10:47

Everybody I know already makes fun of me, we go to bed at 9:00, and so do the kids, most of the time. I may have to take a nap during my lunch break at work or something to get that extra sleep. Great advice, thanks!

From huans32 on Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 13:45:15

Wow you are going to have one tough week. But just think you will be able to taper after it. And those are some good miles and speed. Keep it up.

From Clay on Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 14:01:36

Man you are kicking some butt dude! Keep up the good work, you are doing awesome!!!

From Smooth on Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 15:44:31

NICE run to start off the monster week. Yeah, I agree about the sleep, nap, rest, whatever the body needs. You are doing awesome.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.005.009.00

Survived!!!  The last nasty tempo run before LVM is done.  Glad to have it over with and glad I was able to accomplish my goal for the run.  Broke out the Saucony racing flats again today, I love these shoes, they are so light and bright!!  Wanted to keep the 5 tempo miles all at 6:50 or less and was able to do that.  Warmed up with 2 miles and then started the tempo miles, here are the spilts:  6:48, 6:47, 6:46, 6:50, 6:42.  I started wheezing a bit by the end of the 4th mile and was concerned that I might not be able to make 5 miles.  Somehow I was able to relax and get my breathing under control and got into a good rhythm.  I think the relaxing really helped me to run better as the 5th mile split shows.  So much of running is mental and I think I proved that to myself today.  I just need to be able to carry that tough mental aspect of running through an entire 26.2 mile race.  Cooled off with 2 more miles and called it a day.  Very nice day for running again with the temp at 51 and a light breeze.

Time:  1:06:34  7:23/mile

Saucony A2 Miles: 9.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:10:05

Way to go Jeff!!! Those are some really impressive splits.

Dale

From Kathie on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:59:05

I read your blog right before I did my run and you inspired me to try and run faster. You are going to do so well at LVM!

From JeffC on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 13:08:23

Kathie..glad to help. The same thing happens to me all the time when I read the blog.

From Clay on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 13:15:22

Jeff those are some great splits, and one heck of a tempo run. I think you will kick some serious butt in LVM, keep up the good work!

From cal on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 13:19:16

Very nice job on your tempo miles! You could be ready for a major breakthru at LVM.

From huans32 on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 14:17:07

WOOOOWWWWW!!! That is one impressive tempo run man. Did you look at those splits. DANG DUDE!! And you held on to that pace that is one good run man. Relaxing is totally the key to running fast I have noticed too. And you did it just right bro. Great job on a awesome run. LOOK OUT LVM!!!!

From Dave S on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 14:18:58

Nice run Jeff. Things are looking good for LVM

From JeffC on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 15:52:06

Thanks for the nice comments everyone. I hope everything comes together for LVM. I am training harder than I expected to be, I hope it pays off.

From Smooth on Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 22:47:16

Sorry for the late chime in. WOW!!! Those were impressive splits and what an awesome tempo run. You're right about the mental part, purposeful relaxation is so key to sustaining a tough tempo like you did. Great job. You're working hard. It's gonna pay off at LVM.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

Legs were absolutely dead this morning.  Couldn't get going at all and felt drained for the entire run.  This is what I was afraid of this final week of hard training.  I'm sure yesterdays tempo didn't help much but I expected today would go smoother than it did.  Hopefully the legs found some recovery today and will be ready to go tomorrow.  Temp was 55 and there was a steady breeze from the north.

Time:  1:15:46  8:25/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 9.00
Comments
From huans32 on Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:31:24

Ya that is a normal recovery after such a good tempo run I would think. You should be back to normal tomorrow for your last big long run on the weekend.

From DonGardinero on Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:50:19

Bummer man, my legs feel the same way today so I'm not even going to run. Great job getting in the miles.

Dale

From Cal on Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:02:29

8:15/mile seems like a quick pace for a recovery run. be careful out there!

From JeffC on Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:08:45

Cal...I fat fingered the time/mile it was supposed to be 8:25. I changed it. Even 8:25 is probably a little fast, especially since I am feeling so dead.

From Kathie on Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:42:48

Hey Jeff did you Ice bath after your tempo run? I have found if I do my legs feel much better the next day. Then again I am not going anywhere near your speeds, just a thought.

Really I just want to get you to feel some of the cold we are having up here :)

From JeffC on Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 13:04:49

Kathie..I have done ice baths in the past and they do work really well but I usally don't have time unless it is after a Saturday morning run. I certainly would have benefited from an ice bath yestarday though. I may have to try and squeeze on in before my Saturday long run so I can hopefully wake-up my legs.

From Cal on Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 13:25:20

Just to clarify Jeff, I'm sure you know whats best, so i hope i wasn't sounding critical. I've just become a lot more conservative in my thinking lately with regard to recovery runs and avoiding injuries and such. You're doing great. Keep it up!

From JeffC on Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 13:46:30

Cal...I really do appreciate the reminders once in a while, I didn't think it sounded critical, I call it constructive critisism. Sometimes I get caught up in the moment of training and forget what is best for me even though I think I know. I was just sitting here thinking I probably need to scrap my GMP run tomorrow cause I have been walking really close to the edge of injury and it won't take much at this point to push me over. It's a constant balancing act no doubt.

From Teena on Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 13:49:14

Jeff,

Of course your legs are tired silly!! You have been working your tail off!! No worries!! I might join the "more conservative recovery run" club myself. You are going to nail LVM ... don't spend any energy with negative thinking!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

Decided to scrap the marathon pace run today and stick to some less intense running.  My left knee started acting up a bit yesterday so I didn't want to push it today and risk making it worse.  It didin't bother me during the run today at all so that is a good sign.  I will keep it simple again tomorrow in hopes of getting enough recovery to finish off the last 20 miler on Saturday.  The temp said 58 today when we started our run but it felt a bit colder with the wind blowing pretty hard from the north.

Time:  1:16:57  8:33/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 9.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 13:01:10

Jeff...

Glad your knee is feeling ok. You've been putting in a lot of miles. I can't remember if I asked this before, but what time are you hoping for at LVM?

Dale

From JeffC on Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 13:20:02

Dale..I think you are right about putting in too many miles. I think my knees are just screaming for a break. Can't wait to cut back the miles a little in the taper. My plan for LVM is around 3:29 which would be a small PR and would just beat my SGM time, we'll see what happens.

From huans32 on Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 13:25:54

Ya I think your getting wiser and smarter as a runner this yr Jeff. This week is going to end up being a really big milage one. But it should pay off with some great results for sure for LVM. I wish you the best and good to hear your knee is feeling better.

From Mark on Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 14:16:28

You had me very worried for a second. Out of the corner of my eye all that I saw was:

"Decided to scrap the marathon"

I'm glad that is not the case. Wise choice to slow down for now.

From Teena on Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 21:13:43

WOW JEFF!!! Just looked at your mileage this week. You are unbelievably tough!! Shnikeys!!

Yes, get your run in tomorrow, your 20 miler in Saturday and then taper good!!! Man Alive!! Very impressive. (So glad the knee is holding up.) Seriously ... AWESOME JOB!!

From Rhett on Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:55:58

58 is down right cold when your used to running in the desert. I am such a wimp when it comes to cold weather running. Good thing I live in the desert too. We are a bit warmer than you guys though. Our lows are in the mid to upper 60s still.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

Finally was able to talk some sense into myself this morning and decided to run a true recovery run.  Everything about my mind and body is just wasted.  I don't know if I will even be able to complete a full 20 miler tomorrow.  I have definately found my current limit and three weeks in a row at the 60 mile/week range with tempos and GMP runs is my limit, at least right now.  I know there is a lot of fatigue and mental breakdown involved with marathon training but this time around seems much worse than ever before.  The plan after tomorrow is to take the taper as it comes and really give my body a chance to recover and heal.  It's good to know that I have pushed my body to what I feel is a safe limit but man I feel very suckish as a result.

So anyway, I digress, back to the run.  I was able to slog through the miles and was glad when I was done.....nuff said!  Temp was a warm 66 with a pretty good wind out of the north.

Time:  43:33  8:43/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 5.00
Comments
From Burt on Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:08:40

I assume you're training for the Vegas marathon in December?

From DonGardinero on Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:10:21

Jeff...

I can only imagine what my body would feel like after putting in all the miles you've been logging each week. My hat is off to you. I'm sure once you start tapering you'll feel a like new man. So one more 20 miler to go?

Dale

From JeffC on Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:18:18

Yep, Las Vegas Marathon it is! One more 20 to go tomorrow.....Hopefully I survive.

From Dave S on Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:07:42

Jeff, Your training has been so good these last few weeks I'm sure all it will take is a couple easy days to get back that zip. Good call on the true recovery run this morning.

From huans32 on Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:21:32

Right on a true recovery run there. At least from the paces. I am sure you will be able to get your 20 miler in. It will be the last big push week. And you will be able to do it man. And then taper time. You are doing awesome. Is Meg doing all these miles along with you too??

From Kathie on Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 14:54:36

Hey you can do it! Just take your 20 miler one mile at a time and remember it should be a long SLOW run!

From Smooth on Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 23:08:46

YES, just one more 20 miler!!! Break it up in 5's. You know you can do 5, start out slow and easy, practice your pacing and save the speed for the last 5K. My favorite thing to do after a 20 miler is a nice nap after a recovery drink and ice bath.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.005.0020.00

Oh ye (me) of little faith.

Yesterday I had no faith that I would be able to finish today's 20 miler.  Everything hurt most of the day yesterday and I just didn't have any confidence that I would be able to gut it out today.  I haven't had sore muscles caused by training in a long time but I have actually had some soreness or some extreme fatigue, whatever you want to call it.  I guess yesterday's easy recovery 5 miler was a really good decision because once we got started today things began to feel really good.  Meg and I were able to find a really good rhythm and just keep it going for the first 15 miles.  At mile 15 I decided to pick up the pace to goal marathon pace and see if I could maintain it to the finish.  Mission accomplished!  The final 5 miles came in at an average of 7:28/mile.  I felt like I could have kept up the pace at the end for a while longer, but who knows how long. 

I am so glad this training cycle is over.  I am really looking forward to cutting back the mileage and hopefully get nice and healed up for the marathon in three weeks.  This has been the hardest 3 runnning weeks of my short running life.  This weeks mileage is a PR for mileage at 61 miles.  Next Saturday I will be running the Valley of Fire half marathon and will most likely just be going out for a nice easy run, not racing.

Time:  2:43  8:09/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 20.00
Comments
From Teena on Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:45:58

Jeff ...

Holy schmack Daddy!! That is a sweet 20 miler. Sounds like Meg is doing well too!! AWESOME!! Seriously, that is such a fantastic pace for a 20 miler. All your hard work is going to pay of in huge dividends!! You have paid the piper ... you are going to smoke LVM!! Can hardly wait. Enjoy these next three weeks and dream about the success and fun that lays before you!! AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!! This one's yours!!

From Kathie on Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 13:34:37

Yay Jeff! I am doing a happy dance right now! You will do so good at the LVM.

A friend of my sister-in-law is a police officer and always works that marathon his name is John and since all Mormons know each other say hi to him for me:)!

From DonGardinero on Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 14:58:14

Jeff...

Congrats on a fine run today!!! I would do a happy dance, but I think I'd look pretty silly in front of my kids. Have fun at Valley of Fire next weekend.

Dale

From Dave S on Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 16:32:49

Jeff, glad to hear you got through that one and felt strong enough to do those MP miles at the end of a long run and the end of a tough week. Happy taper.

From huans32 on Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 18:17:35

Awesome job dude. I knew you could do it. And you did it with style. You should be feeling really good from that run and use that at LVM. I see another PR again.:) Great job!!

From Smooth on Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 15:13:46

Congratulations Jeff on a mighty fine 20 miler!!! WooHoo!!! Enjoy the taper weeks. Have fun at VOF, say hello to Sweetiepie for me. Is Meg running VOF half too? You are gonna do AWESOME at LVM. SO SO SO EXCITED FOR YOU!!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Rest.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Nice and easy recovery type run.  Plan to do 7s each day this week with a moderate effort at the Valley of Fire marathon on Saturday.  Felt some tightness in my right achellies area when I woke up this morning and even during the run.  Will keep the pace easy until this new pain goes away.

Time:  59:49  8:33/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 7.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

Another fairly easy pace run today.  Still felt the tightness in the achellies but I don't think it is anything to be concerned about at this point, it was less than yesterday.  Still going to be fairly cautious this week just in case.  Picked up the pace a little bit from yesterday but nothing close to what it should have been for my tempo run.  Oh well, main concern for the next three weeks is to get completely healed, if I can maintain fitness during this time it's a bonus.

Time:  57:40  8:14/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 7.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:20:04

Great job Jeff. It's always better to be cautious. Wish I was running VOF.

From Kathie on Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 15:00:05

Sounds like you are not only fast but smart as well! Keep up the good work.

Does the LVM have the timing mates so that we can follow you on line?

From JeffC on Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 15:40:36

I don't know if LVM has timing mats or not, I will have to look into that.

From JeffC on Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 16:09:12

Just called the marathon office and they do not have live timing mats at the event...too bad.

From Rhett on Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 17:11:46

Jeff, get that achilies healed up. I've always found for me to taper well it is best to keep up the intesity (speed) but cut the distance. Maybe with few miles, but at a faster pace you achellies will do better. You know your body best though and you gotta do what it tells you.

From Smooth on Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 17:18:44

Your average pace is faster today than yesterday's. It's a good sign. Hope the archilles heal up fast.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

I'm gonna sound like a broken record this week but another easy 7 this morning.  Achillies felt good and things feel like they are slowly starting to heal.  Maybe tomorrow I can muster up enough energy to mix it up with a faster paced run......we'll see.

Time:  58:57  8:25/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 7.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:10:28

Way to go Jeff. Don't you just love when you can feel yourself healing up? I wish I could get up and run.

Dale

From huans32 on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:42:24

Great run man. You are going to do great at VoF but even better at LVM. I am jealous your at the hot spot where all the races are happening.:)

From Kathie on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:58:08

Keep up the good work. I am glad you are feel your self heal.

I cant wait for this race.... It is harder waiting to see how you do than waiting for Christmas morning!

From Rhett on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 13:17:20

Are you starting to feel ready for the race?

From JeffC on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 13:39:02

Dale..I hope you feel better soon, you are doing so well.

Mark...Thanks! That's how I feel when I see all you guys up there running races all the time.

Kathie...LOL real funny!!!Ha Ha!!

Rhett...No, I don't feel ready for the race, I think in the middle of next week I will start getting a little antsy but for now I'm glad it's still 2.5 weeks away.

From Kathie on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 14:15:50

No really jeff I am exited to see how you do. I know that you have trained hard and I can't wait to see what happens on race day.

From JeffC on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 14:20:51

Kathie..I believe you, I am excited too. Just pray for this great weather to continue down here for 3 more weeks.....With my luck there will be a headwind in all directions and a blizzard in Vegas....

From Clay on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 15:36:19

Man your fitness is really good right now Jeff, I have a feeling that you are going to smoke the race! This just shows with hard work we (runners) can accomplish just about anything, keep up the good work.

I agree with Kathie, it is like Christmas!!! I can't wait to open my eye's!!!

From Smooth on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 19:33:47

Jeff!!! You're consistently awesomely fast. LVM will be a blast for you. Don't you worry about the weather. You're ready for all kinds of weather after SGM, aren't you? You've trained hard, the magic will greet you at LVM.

From huans32 on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 19:37:21

Any perdictions on VoF this weekend bro?? It is a tough course so like what is your game plan to not kick it into race mode?? It can be tough tring to save yourself for another race only weeks away.

From JeffC on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 20:00:25

Clay...Thanks, I hope you are right.

Smooth...Thanks, you are way to kind. Yes after SGM I should be prepared for any kind of weather and I know I am dumb enough to fight through almost anything to finish.

Mark...Game plan for VOF is to run with Meg and not race at all, just finish. Game plans can always change but that is the plan for now. Maybe I end up trying to push her to a strong finish since she is not running LVM with me. She is tough enough that maybe she has a shot at a placing in her AG, we'll see.

From Teena on Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 22:55:25

Jeff ---

I am already getting ansy for you!! 2.5 weeks, huh? Hey, did I already ask you this? Do they have an interactive type "follow a runners progress" deal for LVM?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
1.006.007.00

Well, finally got around to doing some faster running even though it was only at GMP pace (which is actually still pretty fast for this old man).  After the first mile warm-up I started in with the GMP miles and ran them to the end.  Was able to keep the GMP miles all under 7:28/mile and really didn't have much problem doing it, everything really felt good today.  Plan to take it fairly easy tomorrow in preparation for the VOF half.  I know VOF is a tough race with lots of hills but I really don't know what to expect having never been to VOF.  We'll see what Meg wants to do that morning and go from there.

Time:  52:35  7:31/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 7.00
Comments
From huans32 on Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:47:49

So are you doing the half or the full at VoF?? Great work out Jeff.

From JeffC on Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 13:43:18

Only the half....trying to keep it nice and easy.

From huans32 on Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 14:19:16

Great you will do a fine job then. And can even hit this half good and hard. Just dont overdo it.

From Smooth on Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 15:22:27

Jeff -- You're amazing!!! Your 6 GMP miles run was a good sign/indication you're in tip-top shape. I'm thinking if you rest tomorrow, you can run VOF HALF at GMP pace. Good luck to you and Meg at VOF. Remember to have fun. Can't wait for the report.

From DonGardinero on Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 15:47:57

Great run Jeff...You'll do fantastic at VOF no matter what pace your run. Can't wait to hear all about it.

From Kathie on Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 16:48:54

Hey have fun Saturday I cant wait to read the report. Be careful remember you are in taper mode!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

Pace today was a little quicker than intended.  Run was kinda wierd, felt like I was crawling but was actaully moving along pretty good.  Oh well, with no taper and no goals going into VOF I have no worries about ruining my run tomorrow by running too fast today.  Weather continues to be amazing in Vegas with the starting temp at 55 and almost no wind.

Time:  57:57  8:17/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 7.00
Comments
From Mark on Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 09:46:13

Best of luck Jeff at VOF! Those races with no expectations can be the best.

From rhett on Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 13:43:39

Have fun at VOF. Don't go too hard. Remember it is not your gaol race. Glad to hear you are enjoying beautiful weather like we are here in Havasu.

From Clay on Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 14:21:44

Good luck tomorrow Jeff, I hope you and Meg have fun. I will be checking in on you for the report.

From huans32 on Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 15:02:40

Good luck man. You are going to do great. Enjoy it!!! Can't wait to read the report.

From Smooth on Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 15:19:37

Have a fun time at VOF. It's a nice Sat. medium long run with benefits. Look forward to reading all about it.

From JeffC on Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 15:30:44

Thanks everyone! Should be a fun morning. It's nice to go into a race I haven't run before and really have little knowledge about the course other than it's hilly and tough. Will also be nice to break away from my neighborhood loop course for once.

From Kathie on Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 19:30:05

Sorry I am getting to your post so late but good luck tomorrow I can't wait to here how you did.

Because this is the first time at this race it will be an automatic PR!

Race: Valley of Fire Half Marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:46:28, Place overall: 17, Place in age division: 4
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.0013.1013.10

Well for better or for worse here it is......

We left home around 5:30am so we could get to the race in time to pick up our stuff and then do the obligitory wait in the POP lines.  Everything went well with the race organization at the packet pick up and start and I was very impressed that the race started very close to on time.  Plan was for Meg and I to run together the entire way.  I was not going to leave her side for any reason.

This race starts off with a huge climb in the first mile so needless to say we were forced to start off pretty slow.  My Garmin lost the signal somewhere in this mile so I know my first mile split is jacked up by about .2 miles.  I was figuring on finishing at 13.3 according to Garmin.  This race was just as advertised, very hilly and very tough.  It is an out and back course which starts and finishes at the same elevation but all the climbing and decending can really do a number on your legs.

Here is a quick look at the splits using Megs Garmin:

8:32, 8:16, 7:37, 7:58, 8:43, 7:52, 8:08, 8:33, 8:38, 9:07, 8:42,  the remaining splits included my miles at home, 7:59, 7:46.  Not exact, but you get the picture, it was hilly.

At mile 2 or so, I knew we needed to take a side road, which is on dirt, and do a little 1 mile out and back section.  So I was watching for the turn off and when we arrived at the aid station with the turn we were asking the volunteers if this was the turn off and they said no it was only for the 10K runners.  So I thought, well, maybe there was a last minute course change and we'll make up the extra mileage somewhere else.  Besides, I had plenty of daunting hills staring me in the face, I didn't have time to worry about figuring out the course.

So we continued on our hilly little journey and just kept steaming up and down the hills and enjoying the view, which was very beautiful by the way.  The red, pink and white rocks and cliffs were simply stunning.  Anyway, as we arrived at the turn around I noticed we were very short of 6.55 miles and wondered again if we had missed a turn.  At this point Meg and I didn't really care if we missed a turn we would be fine if the course was short, this thing was a beast.  I also had Pron8r aka Don Bigger in my sights and I would watch him to see if he turned off anywhere.  Well long story longer, we (as well as many runners) missed the turn off on the dirt road that we were supposed to take on the way back to the finish line.  If there were signs, I didn't see them, if volunteers were signaling the way, I didn't see them either.  I was a little disappointed to arrive at the finish line with my Garmin showing just under 11.5 miles but then again, this was just a training run for me so I was good with it.  The only other dissappointment I had was that there was no electrolyte drink on the entire course.  Every aid station was well stocked with water and luckily we found one with a hammer gel that we shared.  I prefer to take my race carbs in liquid form so it was really a bummer not to have Heed or Gatorade or something, anything.

The Good:  Race shirt fits and is really cool.  Course was just as advertised, beautiful and tough.  Aid stations were well stocked and overall race organization was good.

The Bad:  Need better signage on crucial turns, like the dirt road.  Definately needed Heed or Gatorade drinks at every aid station.

The Ugly:  Me at the end of the race.  I had the faux hawk hairdo going on.....Sweeeeet!

Tracy, the race director, was there and chipper as ever, going a  little crazy I might add.  I think Bemo dropped out of the race to help Tracy as a volunteer as she appeared to be needing extra help.  I chatted with Rob and Mindy Waite and also talked with Don Bigger for a few minutes after following him for most of the race.

Overall a good race, don't know that I will do it again, I will tell you tomorrow when I am able to feel the full brunt of the damage.  Right now I feel really good and honestly didn't feel as horribly fatigued at the finish line as I have felt in other races.  It was simply awesome to run with Meg the whole way and push her a little bit in some tough sections.  She did awesome!  And the time, on a course like that, was really really good.  That reminds me, I came home from the race and ran another 1.65 miles to make up for what we missed in the race so the time is not exact or official but it's close to what it would have been, and that's close enough for me.

NB 768 Old Miles: 13.10
Comments
From Mark on Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 18:16:42

Sounds like quite an adventure! Glad that you survived and had an enjoyable run with Meg.

From Dave S on Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 19:32:23

That's a bummer when they can't mark the route better. Good thing it was more of a training run. That should be a great workout for your upcoming Marathon.

From Smooth on Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 00:15:17

Thanks for the report. Sounds like you had a good run with Meg. Too bad the course was not well marked and no electrolyte drinks. Did you ever find out why Tracy didn't have gatorade of heed there? That would be a big NO NO for a full marathon.

Well, still an enjoyable training run with beautiful scenery and an even more beautiful running partner.

From Teena on Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 00:31:33

Jeff --

Nicely done!! Congrats to you and Meg. The "no gatorade" would have been huge for me ... I need it!! Seriously.

Glad you enjoyed yourself on such a tough course.

Yahoo!!

From Clay on Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 00:41:00

Sounds like it was a brutal course Jeff and you guys handled it well, congrats and keep up the good training your doing awesome!!!

From DonGardinero on Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 20:17:49

Jeff...

Sounds like a very tough course and you did very well. Didn't Tracy say there would be Gatorade and or Heed on along the course? Did they just run out before you got to the aid stations?

Great job.

Dale

From Andy on Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:25:51

Nice job Jeff. Looks like you are in good shape for LVM.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Rest.

Feeling a little sore and stiff from the VOF half yesterday, but not too bad.  Hopefully tomorrows run will go smoothly.

Comments
From DonGardinero on Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 22:43:22

I can imagine you'd be sore from all of those hills. Hope you feel better tomorrow.

Dale

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

Nice easy recovery run today.  Felt much better than expected on this mornings run.  A few muscles were a little sore and tight but for the most part, running was not a problem.  Weather is getting cooler as it dropped down to 47 this morning and there is potential rain in the next few days.  Lets just get the rain out of the way now before the marathon.  I really don't want to go through another SGM monsoon at Las Vegas Marathon.  Started breaking in a new pair of shoes today.  Maybe that is why things felt so good.  These will be my marathon shoes so they should be ready to go in a couple of weeks with 30-40 miles on them.

Time:  43:02  8:36/mile

NB 768 Miles: 5.00
Comments
From Rhett on Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 15:15:08

I'm glad your legs are feeling ok after that brutal almost 1/2 you ran. Your going to be primed and ready for a great race come race day.

From huans32 on Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 15:42:24

Nice recovery run. After your hilly race. Great job by the way at the race. Looked brutal.

From Smooth on Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 16:06:06

Amen to what Rhett and Mark said. Nicely done. You're looking good tapering into LVM. I do the same with my marathon shoes too, break into a new pair during the last 2-3 weeks of taper.

From cal on Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 21:50:18

Jeff, you've got some nice mileage going on this month. looks like you'll be ready for your marathon.

From Teena on Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 00:18:04

Sounds like things are going right in the direction you want them to. VERY COOL!!

From DonGardinero on Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 03:53:39

Jeff...

Sounds like you're recovering pretty good after Saturday's race. That's great.

Oh yeah, new shoes ALWAYS feel so good. I'm about due for a new pair.

Dale

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.003.005.00

The final tempo run of the training cycle today.  Wasn't sure if my legs would be completely recovered from Saturday so it was a run time decision about whether or not to run this tempo today.  Everything felt good this morning so I went ahead and kicked it up after the first warm-up mile.  Here are the splits:  6:43, 6:47, 6:40 and I continued the pace for an extra .1 miles just so I could call it a 5K.  I think my time would have come out to be right around 20:45 or something which is a PR for me.  So I guess that means that my tempo pace is probably a little bit fast since it should be closer to my 15K  pace.  Oh well, it was a great work out.  Cooled off with one more mile and got done way earlier than normal today.  Spent the extra time stretching and cooling off.  Temp was 53 today which is warmer than yesterday but it was cloudy and it must be the calm before the storm that is on its way.

Time:  36:37  7:19/mile

Saucony A2 Miles: 5.00
Comments
From RivertonPaul on Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:17:33

Your consistency has been very admirable. You are looking great.

From DonGardinero on Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:40:50

Greet run Jeff. Those are some pretty fast splits. There's nothing like getting a PR on a training run. Then you KNOW you have gotten faster.

Dale

From Rhett on Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 13:31:28

Sounds like your just getting faster and after this race you may need to adjust down all your training paces.

From Clay on Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 14:09:23

Those are some great splits Jeff, you are getting faster and faster keep up the great work.

From Smooth on Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 22:11:36

Man, you are FAST!!! AWESOME run with an unexpected PR. I'm with Rhett, you're getting faster and looking GREAT going into LVM. All the hardwork is done. Enjoy the taper.

From Teena on Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 00:53:05

Check that out!! Looks like you are peaking perfectly!!

I am so excited about LVM!! You are going to own it!!

From huans32 on Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 07:49:38

Very nice 5k there Jeff. Nicely done. Your looking great for LVM.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Holy memories of SGM monsoon Batman!!!  We woke up about a half hour later than usual cause neither Meg or I slept real good last night.  So as it turns out we got up just in time to catch the brunt of the rain coming through town.  Conditions were exactly like SGM.  Wind out of the south, plenty of rain, chaffing nipples, 60 degrees and soaked to the bone.  Luckly we only had to spend 45 minutes in it.  Was worried about the Garmin crapping out again in the rain so I kept it covered up with my long sleeve shirt and wasn't able to monitor my paces.  It was interesting to see that my last couple of miles, when the rain was it it's worst, were my fastest miles at just under 8:00/mile.  I think I was wanting to be done by then and was pushing a little bit.  We are headed for St. George this weekend to spend Thanksgiving with my family.  Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving and nice long weekend.

Time:  41:24  8:17/mile

Oh ya, almost forgot!!  This is the first time these legs have been beyond 200 miles in a month and the month ain't over yet!

NB 768 Old Miles: 5.00
Comments
From fly on the wall on Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:33:42

You got it done in the rain. That's dedication! Enjoy St. George.

From Kathie on Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 13:14:12

Wow Jeff 200 miles in a month that is so great! you have definitely earn a piece of pie tomorrow!

From Smooth on Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 14:56:29

You're a diehard...rain or shine. CONGRATS on the 200+ month. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Love the new avatar, Meg looks awesome, the guy in blue doesn't look too bad either.

From huans32 on Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 16:19:38

Great job Jeff 200+ in a month SWEET!!! And no injuries that is awesome.

From huans32 on Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 15:00:23

Happy Thanksgiving Jeff and Meg.

From Rhett on Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 13:30:40

Congrats on 200+ miles. I hope your feeling well carb loaded a rested after Thanksgiving Day. One week to go!!!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Fairly easy run today in St. George for Thanksgiving.  Just took it easy and enjoyed a nice turkey trot before feasting on the turkey.

Time:  0:41:58  8:24/mile

NB 768 Miles: 5.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Another fairly easy run today with a faster mile on the last one.  Still in St. George and did all of the black Friday sales before this run.  First stop was Wal-Mart.....Holy Crap!!!  Then I went to Radio Shack and GameStop.  Found some great deals and got lots of shopping done.  Then topped it of with this nice little run.

Time:  40:42  8:09/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 5.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

Really easy final long slow run before LVM.  Still in St. George and running before the sun comes up can be a bit of a challenge where my parents live.  We ended up looking for roads with street lights and circling around and around for 11 miles.  Kinda nice to just go out and say "oh let's turn left here, oh lets turn right here" and have no set course to run on.  Kept the pace really slow and just tried to enjoy a good run.  Headed up to Cedar City after the run to take advantage of a screaming deal on a shot gun for my oldest son for a Christmas present....hope he likes it.

Time:  1:38:25  8:57/mile

This caps off my highest mileage month ever at 223 miles.  Hopefully I can see the benefits of it at LVM.

NB 768 Miles: 11.00
Comments
From Mark on Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 23:21:16

That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger, fortunately you are still alive :) So, I'm sure you will definitely see the benefits this time around.

From Teena on Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 00:36:10

223!!!!! How cool is that?? My hat is off to you.

(I am still so excited for you and LVM.)

From Kathie on Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:52:52

Jeff looks like a good run and just what you needed. I know you are so ready for LVM! I can't wait to see how you do!

From DonGardinero on Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 18:21:36

Wow Jeff!!! 223 miles in one month is quite an achievement. Way to go. Can't wait to see how you do at LVM.

Dale

From Smooth on Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 23:00:51

All that high volume running in Nov. is going to pay off at LVM. You are SO ready. Have a safe trip home from St. George and a nice taper week.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Bad News!!

I seemed to have injured my right calf muscle today playing capture the flag with the kids.  Can't run on it, can't walk on it without a limp.  Been icing, elevating on wrapping as well as anti-inflammatories and rest.  Didn't happen due to any hard movements that I am aware of it just started hurting like maybe it was a charlie horse and hasn't let up all day.  Unless this thing makes a miraculous recovery in the next few days, the marathon may be out.  Right now I am just taking it a day at a time, hoping for the best.

Comments
From Teena on Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 23:52:59

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

Call a sports doc first thing in the morning and beg to be seen immediately. This will all work out. You have worked far too hard, it's got to work out.

Keep icing and taking the IB. Elevate it as much as possible. Can you take tomorrow off of work and stay off of it?

It will all work out. Sending lots of positive healing thoughts your way and will pray like crazy tonight.

Tell yourself at least 100 times before you go to bed that your calf is healing and will feel so much better in the morning.

You are totally running LVM. Things will fall in place.

From Smooth on Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 23:58:34

OH Jeff!!! It can't be. I ditto what Teena said. You will be alright tomorrow. Sending positive vibes your way.

From Cal on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 09:46:04

Wow, sorry to hear that Jeff.

Just like Teena said, call a Sports Doc and get in there today! Be tenacious.

Hope it works out. Let us know what the doctor says.

From Clay on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 10:06:52

Jeff say it ain't so Joe! I will send you an extra prayer your way!

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 15:00:01

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers they seemed to have helped. I am feeling a bit better today and hoping for the best over the next few days.

From Teena on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 17:03:51

I still think you should see a doc, unless you know exactly what is going on. When you say "a bit better," what does that mean? Can you walk without limping yet?

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 18:17:40

Teena..You know how guys are about docs!?!? :) Seriously, I am able to walk without a limp and it is feeling better today as the day goes on. Hopefully the trend continues, because I sure do want to get at least a couple of runs in this week before the marathon to test it out. The only reasons I haven't been in to see the doc is cause I don't have a sports doc and the pain is improving and I don't think he/she would tell me to do much more than I already am with the RICE. I even have some prescription anti-inflamatories that I am taking. Hopefully it's enough. I will be trying it out on Tuesday morning slow and easy to see what happens.

From Teena on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 18:22:27

Sounds good. Just be super super super careful!!

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The calf is still bothering me a little bit today but it is much better than yesterday.  I can walk without a limp but I can still feel the tightness/soreness.  I obviously skipped the run today, but I doubt I could have run on it anyway.  I have been icing, wrapping, and elevating when I can.  I decided not to make a quick trip to the doc today for a couple of reasons:  I don't have a good sports doc and the pain had improved enough that I am hopeful I will be able to run LVM.  I guess missing a run or two at this point isn't going to hurt and I'd rather be safe than sorry at this point.

Comments
From Smooth on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 15:34:46

Jeff, I'm glad the calf is much better. Keep the RICE going. Does it hurt to massage or stretch?

No need to run a single step at this point. Rest, rest, rest and I will pray, pray, pray. I have a feeling you're gonna be fine. Yes, better be save than sorry. Sending postive healing thoughts your way.

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 15:52:34

Thank you Smooth. Yes, it does hurt to stretch and massage, not bad pain, but enough to know there is some tightness and soreness in the area.

From Rhett on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 16:00:55

Jeff, I strained my calf the week before both Boston and SGM this year. I don't know how, but it just knotted up on me. Left at Boston, Right at SGM. Anyways I did the rice thing along with mild message with the stick. Even the day before it was sore, but in both races it did not affect me one bit. I hope the same thing happens for you. Rest, ice, message as much as possible. No serious stretching. You'll be ready! Think positively.

From Clay on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 16:34:54

Its good to hear that you are on the mend Jeff, just take it easy and you will be okay you're going to do great at LVM!!!

From Kathie on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 18:09:04

Oh Jeff I missed your post yesterday! I am glad you are feeling better today and I will be sending you healing vibes!

From DonGardinero on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 19:20:18

Jeff..

I hope it's feeling better soon. isn't that just the way it goes? You run miles and miles, day after day with no problems and then hurt something doing a different activity. Keep us posted.

Dale

From mark on Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 22:18:56

I was so bummed when I saw your post yesterday. I'm glad that things are looking better now. Sounds like you should at least be in shape to start the race - then just keep going! Best of luck!

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Decided to take one more day off as a precaution.  Calf is still a little tight but I think the massage, icing and stretching, as well as everyones healing vibes has really been working.  I feel like I could have run today but again, better safe than sorry.

Comments
From Rhett on Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:36:31

Glad to hear it's feeling better. Keep up the treatment. Keep us posted.

From Kathie on Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:40:58

You are so smart to say off it! I am sure you will be 100% better soon!

From huans32 on Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 14:29:57

Man I am on the injury list too. I hope to get in some slow miles today. Sore to hear capture the flag was your calprit. Mine was either the 5k basketball or football. Take it easy and just relax. You will only benefit from taking time to recover with you being in a taper. You will be back at it sooner then you know it.

From Smooth on Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 16:10:38

I'm quoting Pron8r: The extra rest is going to benefit you more than any running will. He also emphasised proper eating/nutrition is more important during the days leading up to the marathon. The first three days of the week eat a little more lean protein than carb. The three days before the marathon eat more carb.

Jeff, keep up the treatment. You may want to use ICY-HOT or any topical anti-inflammatory cream when you massaged the calf. Stetch gently only after the muscle is warmed. Do you use "the stick"? Ice it after your roll the muscle or when you rest/elevate the leg.

Take care, your calf will heal, think positive.

From Rhett on Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 16:19:04

Two words: Pop Tarts!!!

From JeffC on Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 17:36:33

LOL...Rhett so are you saying I should carb up on Pop Tarts!!

Smooth...Thanks for the very good info. Does that mean I need to lay off the chocolate for a few days? :)

Kathie...Thanks I hope you're right.

Mark...Sorry to hear that you are injured too. I need to just go into a bubble for the last three weeks of marathon training so I don't risk any dumb injuries. I wonder if the mean hills of the VOF half marathon were partly to blame in my case. Who knows.

From Clay on Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 19:33:32

Way to be smart Jeff, your fitness is there so take it easy and it will be fine. And I like the Carb idea too!

From Dave S on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 00:12:11

Jeff, sorry to hear about the calf. Glad it's improving. Your training has been good and skipping runs this week shouldn't affect your marathon this weekend. Good luck with it.

From Smooth on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 00:17:07

Jeff, chocolates are good for the soul. Eat away!!!

From Cal on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 00:24:37

keep up the good work with your treatments. hope you can run the race with no problems.

From Teena on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 00:33:35

Jeff,

This is GREAT news!! Just keep doing whatever you are doing ... because it is working!! Hallelujah!!

(Oh ... and one thing I have learned ... ALWAYS listen to Smooth!! Seriously ... you can't go wrong!)

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A bit of a setback today  :(  I got all dressed up to go for a run and only made it about 10 seconds before I knew I needed to stop.  It wasn't terrible pain, but it was enough to let me know I better just continue to rest it.  I am able to walk without pain (I guess walking the marathon is an option).  I am able to climb stairs with only slight discomfort.  I did notice what I think is some slight swelling on the outside area of my calf, but I'm not sure, it could just be my massive muscular calf just rippling out there :)  I guess I will just keep doing what I am doing and try to run each day to guage the progress.  I still have 4 more full healing days left, that's enough, right?

Comments
From huans32 on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:01:33

Hang in there man. Good job listening to your body. Ya you just have massively muscular calves.:) Its what Meg loves about you. Stay positive man.

From DonGardinero on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:35:24

Jeff...

I'm sure it IS the rippling muscles. Oh, that made me laugh. I laugh because I've done the same thing. I look down and see a bulge on my calf and I do a double-take thinking there's something wrong, so I feel it and it's just the muscle bulging out. Funny stuff.

Get some more rest.

Dale

From Kathie on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:38:02

Jeff you were smart not to push it... four days is plenty of time to heal just think positive and you will be better in no time at all!

From Rhett on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:39:51

Jeff your going to be ready! Keep saying it. Are you taking any ibuprofin. 800mg 4 x a day to decrease inflamation. I don't like to run on it though, it masks the pain, but as long as you are just resting it, I'd be popping pills.

From Smooth on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 14:59:04

Keep doing the healing treatment therapy. 4 days is enough time to get the tightness and knots out. I agree with Rhett on getting the inflammation down. Lots of RICE and positive thoughts.

From Teena on Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 19:01:25

Amen to what everyone has said. Plus ... get as many people as you know to send you positive energy and say lots of prayers on your behalf. I'M SERIOUS!! I'll say one right now!! :)

Hang in there ... tomorrow will be better than today, Friday will be even better than Thursday, Saturday you will feel like a Rockstar and Sunday you will be a Rockstar!! Just watch!!

From Cal on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 00:49:22

a couple good doses of Prednisone might zap that swelling for you. (not too late to see the sports doc...)

From JeffC on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 10:52:02

Thanks for the thoughts and prayers everyone. I am losing faith that this marathon will be a 100% effort.

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Well I was able to log one mile today but not without a bit of pain.  The first quarter mile started out well and everything felt really good, then the calf started to wimper a little and by the end it was really grumbling.  I am hoping that things will continue to improve each day, I'm sure they will.  I just wish I had three more weeks until the marathon to get fully healed.  Oh well, such is life.  :(

Time:  8:30  8:30/mile

NB 768 Miles: 1.00
Comments
From huans32 on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 11:13:56

Man argh sorry to hear your calf isnt working with you right now. Was LVM this weekend?

From Kathie on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:52:29

Hey one mile is one mile! Even if you don't log another mile you will do great. Hey how is you potassium intake I know when my muscles are trying to repair I will take a potassium supplement and it helps but this close to the marathon you might not want to try anything new, maybe just eat more bananas :)

From Rhett on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:59:47

Keep the faith, it is getting better.

From Smooth on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 13:58:10

So sorry to hear your calf isn't healing as fast as you want right now. Can you see a sport doc? It wouldn't hurt, might help. Yah, keep the faith. It is getting better. Sending healing thoughts your way.

From JeffC on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 15:16:46

Huans - LVM is this Sunday

Kathie - Had a banana yesterday

Rhett - Keepin the faith brother

Smooth - I have a call in to a couple of places, we'll see what happens.

From Clay on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 16:05:34

Hang in there Jeff! I will also be sending some healing thoughts and prayers your way;-D

From DonGardinero on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 16:33:06

What a bummer, man!!! I surely hope it starts feeling better, very quickly!

Dale

From Dave S on Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 16:57:56

Jeff, sorry to hear it's not improving quicker. It would be awful frustrating if you can't run this weekend after your training has gone so well. A lot can still happen in 3 days. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

From Teena on Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 11:27:54

Jeff,

How are you feeling today?

From DonGardinero on Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:46:59

Jeff...

How is the pain today?

Dale

From Smooth on Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 14:06:49

Jeff -- PLEASE tell us your calf is feeling better today. Thinking of you and believing in you.

From JeffC on Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 15:53:41

Sorry everyone for not chiming in earlier. Unfortunately my calf is not feeling better and I have pretty much come to the conclusion that I will not be running. I may go out and jog/walk the race but haven't decided yet. Any thoughts? I will blog more later when I have more time.

From Rhett on Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 16:01:59

I'm so sorry to hear that Jeff. If it is definitely injurred I'd say your better off not doing anything at all. I tried to run a marathon once with an injury and ended seriously huring myself, getting a DNF, and not being able to run for almost 6 months afterwards. If it is just a knot in the muscle, you may want to go out and give it a try and see if it looses up. You know your body best. Don't do anything stupid.

From Kathie on Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 16:59:49

Oh Jeff I am so sorry. I know you have worked so hard for this! Do you think you could call the race director and see if they will delay the race until you are healed? Just kidding I wish it were that easy. Just do what is best for you!

From Teena on Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 18:01:46

Jeff,

STINK!!!

(that's all I have to say ... oh yeah, and that I think you're absolutely fantastic ... oh yeah, and hang in there ... btw, this really does stink!)

From DonGardinero on Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 19:04:52

Duuuuude. Teena's right, STINK!!!

Dale

From Clay on Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 13:27:41

Holy crap Batman! That does STINK! you know Jeff sometimes this old life is just not fair, I'm so mad I want to kick a cat!!! Hang in there dude, I hope it feels better soon.

From Teena on Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 21:26:23

Jeff,

Have you made a final decision? Are you running/jogging/walking in the morning?

From Smooth on Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 00:30:36

Jeff, I'm so so so sorry. Whatever you decide, we're thinking of you and wishing the best.

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Nothing.....again.

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Oops!  I posted my LVM race report on the wrong day.  Sorry everyone who commented on this day, I moved it to Sunday the 7th.

Comments
From DonGardinero on Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 16:56:07

Jeff...

Great job man!!! To you AND Meg. I'm so glad that you made it. That was a great report. I wonder what was up with the fence? Strange. Get some well deserved rest.

Dale

From Kathie on Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 17:16:09

Jeff - Way to gut it out! I knew you could do it. I thought of you during church today and hoped you were doing well! I am glad you decided to go. Can you imagine if you had decided to stay in bed, you would never have know how strong you really are!

It is so fun that you and Meg cross the finish line together, that is one finish line photo that you should buy for sure!

From Dave S on Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 17:26:52

Jeff, way to go!! That's unbelievable !!After not being able to do one mile just 3 days ago. I guess the challenges of the past week made the finish that much sweeter.

Nice report.

From Kelli on Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 17:57:13

Wow, that was a RACE report, thanks for sharing it! I think that race will go down in the books for you as a great accomplishment!

From Teena on Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 18:34:46

Jeff,

YES!!! You and Meg are unbelievably amazing. I am so happy for you. Sure, it might not have played out like you were planning ... but man alive ... what a great experience on so many levels.

Congratulations to both you and Meg! You are a bona fide fighter! AMAZING!!

From Smooth on Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 21:50:44

Jeff --

THANKS for the report. What a journey!!! I was thinking about you this morning. I had been in similar situation debating what to do... to either DNS or show up and DNF, it's just agony.

You proved that you're a fighter, not quiter. How SWEET it is that you were able to finish LVM with Megan together. Your last sentence says it all. The preparation, the training, the challenge, the setback, the almost DNS and the endurance of the 26.2 really teach us so much about ourselves: the will power, the resilience. That's why we LOVE it so much. Only those who's gone thru it can understand. YOU OWN IT NOW. You're stronger and better for it. Thanks for sharing your journey. Best wishes to a speedy recovery.

From Teena on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 00:20:10

Oh yeah Jeff, I just thought of something that I forgot to mention in my prior comment:

Okay, here it is:

YOU HAVE TO POST THE PICTURE OF YOU WITH THE VEGAS GALS!! (is there a way to do that from a cell phone)

From Clay on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 10:11:31

Way to go Jeff! I just read your report and that is so cool that you were both able to run, that truly is a miracle! Now take some time off and heal up, you have both earned it!

From Andy on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 10:13:06

You keep finding new injuries to run through. Pretty soon you will have experienced every possible injury and you will have a great, injury free training cycle and race. Congratulations to both you and Meg.

From Mark on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 10:40:19

Great race report. Glad you made it through ok and sounds awesome that you ran the whole thing with your wife, must have really helped to have the company, otherwise those things can get lonely. I've been there before where you start a race not knowing if you can even finish it.

From Eric Day on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 11:13:05

Ok, this was my book reading for today...

Good job on the race & congrats to you & Meg. What better running partner than your wife.

All the best..

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 13:18:37

Thanks everyone for your kind words. I posted my LVM race report on the wrong day (what a dufus) so I have moved it to Sunday, December 7 and have included the pic you wanted to see Teena. NICE!!

Race: Las Vegas Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:56:55, Place overall: 695, Place in age division: 118
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***WARNING***  THIS IS REALLY LONG.....SORRY

WHAT HAPPENED TODAY WAS NOTHING SHORT OF A MIRACLE!!!!

I don't even know where to begin with my race report.  Three days ago there was no way in the world I was going to be able to run a marathon today.  I couldn't even run a mile without stopping on Thursday due to a strain (or something) in my lower right calf muscle.  That was the day I mentally turned off all hope of running this race.  I didn't follow my normal race preparation routine with extra carbs, extra hydration and extra mental preparation three days before.  In short, I was mentally out of the game.  I still held on to some stubborn hope that I was going to go out there and walk the marathon just so I could collect my finishers medal but I was even having doubts about wanting to do that.  My spirit and my motivation had gone down the drain and I had slowly come to the realization that it wasn't going to happen.

Friday at work I was still going back and forth about what I was going to do but was basically telling everyone that I would not be running.

Saturday morning, same story, not running.  I was still considering being a stubborn mule and going out and walk the thing.  By Saturday morning, Megan had decided that she wanted to go out and run "the dang thing" even though she had not wanted to do it up this point.  I had a feeling she would jump in at the last minute because that is just how she is, doesn't want to be left out of any opportunity to thrash her body.  So on Saturday I kinda started to get into the racing mind set and started hydrating and eating additional carbs, topped of with our traditional pasta dinner the night before the race.  I was gonna do the thing, walk or run, I was going to finish.

Sunday morning, 3:30 am we are laying in bed contemplating wether or not to just stay in bed or get up and get er done.  Meg shared a dream she had with me just before we got up, I had a good chuckle.  We were on our way to the marathon when she realized she had forgotten her shoes.  She asked me to call my mom, who lives in St. George, and have her bring her shoes to her.  We got to the race and the only shoes she could find was a pair of firemans boots.  So she was running through Veyo.....yes Veyo, not even the Las Vegas marathon, in firemans boots and really getting frustrated.  That was the end of the dream.  With that on our minds we got up and got going.

Already a book and I haven't even started the race report yet.....sorry.

My essential gear for the race was to carry the car key and the cell phone.  The kids would be staying home so I would have my cell phone in case of emergency.  Since I was sorta planning to drop out of the race around mile 2 or 3 I had the car key and a detailed map of the race course so I could calculate where Meg would be and get out and support her.

On to the race report.....finally.  Our arrival at the race didn't start off too well.  We were following the parking directions for the race and it turned out the roads to the lots where we were instructed to park were already closed at 4:30 a.m. an hour and a half before the race was supposed to start.  A little frustrating, but manageable.  We were able to park at the New York New York and walk across the street to the Excalibur and take the tram to Mandalay Bay.  It's really different getting ready for a race inside a building where it is nice and warm and you have nice bathrooms, etc.  About 15 minutes before race time we started making our way out to the starting line, man was that a chore.  You could almost get to the starting line, but then a big fence was in the way with no explanation of where to go.  As we were nearing the fence, an air horn sounded and it appeared that the race was going to start.  People started scaling this 8 foot fence like you wouldn't believe, it was pertty chaotic.  As it turns out, it wasn't the start of the race, I have no idea what it was.  We finally found a gap in the fence and made our way to the starting line.  We were supposed to be in a corral near the front but there was not indication of where that was.  As you can see the start of this race was very messy.

We finally got situated and moved as close to the front as we could.  We dind't have to wait around too long as the gun sounded and we were off like a heard of cattle.  It was pretty tight running for a while.  At the start they did send of quite a few fireworks and that was kind of a cool touch.  The first couple of miles went pretty well for how crowded it was and we were able to go pretty much at the pace we wanted.  Every mile that passed I continued to be amazed at the lack of pain in my calf.  I could feel it a little bit, but it was nothing like last Thursday.  I kept thinking the whole way, "okay if I can just make it to 10 miles then I can finish this thing in a repectable time."  The 10 mile marker passed and I would say now lets make it to the half.  I continued to be more and more amazed at how well my calf continued to feel and then started to feel stupid for having been such a wimp during the week leading up to the race.  How in the world was I able to do this when I couldn't even run a mile 3 days ago. 

Around mile 15 I started to feel a new pain in my other leg.  It was in my foot.  It was a blister.  Never had one of those in a maratohon before.  I guess my new shoes hadn't been broken in enough and I was starting to get a blister.  It started to numb as the miles went on and I was able to manage the pain fairly well.  As precaution I ripped off my shoe at one point while Meg stopped at a POP just to make sure I didn't have any major damage going on, all was well, just painful.  Then I started having pains in my left hip area, geeeeez!  Maybe I was changing my stride a bit to compensate for my bum right calf.  These other two areas gave me more trouble than my calf ever did during the race.

Around mile 21 or 22 the fatigue really started to set in.  I think a lot of this fatige had to do with my lack of metal preparation and physical preparation during the week.  I litereally had to stop and walk a few times because the pain got so bad.  I was a bit frustrated with myself for not being better prepared for the race but what was I supposed to do, this injury really had me messed up in the head.  Well we finally made it to the finish line.  Meg and I ran every single step of the race together  It was really nice to run an entire race with her again, only two weeks after we ran VOF together.  I think she could have taken off the last few miles today and smoked me but she hung with me and we crossed the line together, both in major pain and both relieved to be done. 

They had some great chocolate milk and a few other good snacks and some pretty average looking finisher medals.  I had my picture taken with some hot show girls, yes Meg reluctantly took the picture with my cell phone camera.

Overall the race was good.  I will probably never run it again, but I had to do it at least once because it's my hometown marathon.  The only flaws I saw was no Gatorade at a designated aid station that was supposed to have it and one aid station at mile 17 which had zero volunteers.  All the boxes and tables were set up and ready for preparing the stuff but no volunteers to make it work.  The 17 mile aid station was supposed to be another designated gatorade station, which didn't sit with well with Meg and I again.  We drink all our carbs and it kinda sucked to miss out on two aid station that were supposed to have it.  You'd think for $95 you could get some flawless support along the coures, guess I thunk wrong.  As for local support along the course it was pretty spotty.  The locals that did come out were great and we thanked many of them.  Somewhere around mile 4 or 5 we had several holy rollers with huge signs declaring that the end of the world was coming and that we were all going to hell.  We had a good chuckle about that too as we knew far to well the hell we would be in in the next couple of hours.  We remembered these signs again at mile 23 and thought they would be appropriate at that point of the race too.

This report wouldn't be complete without a huge thank you to all my friends out in blog land who were thinking about me and praying for me.  THANK YOU ALL, OUR PRAYERS WERE HEARD WITHOUT A DOUBT!!!

Glad it's over, glad I did it, glad I was able to run the whole thing but most of all I am so greatful for the blessings I received today that somehow got me through this race.  It wasn't a PR but it was far better than that, it was an amazing journey that taught me so many things about will power and the resiliance of the human body, mind and spirit.

Ya Meg took this pic!  What a good sport!

We're only smiling because it's almost over.

NB 768 Miles: 26.20
Comments
From Teena on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 13:19:50

THAT PICTURE IS AWESOME!!!! (what a good sport Meg is!!)

LOVE IT!!

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 13:21:29

Many you chimed in quick Teena. How in the heck did you do that? I only posted it like 2 minutes ago.

From Teena on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 13:39:42

Right place, right time!!

(I've been at my computer all morning, and will be hear all afternoon, studying for my final. So it's very convenient to see who is posting. And, of course, when it said JeffC I just had to look!!)

From Kathie on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 13:48:37

Great picture Jeff...so did Meg pose with Elvis?

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 15:48:10

Kathie...Nope, no pics with Elvis for Meg. She was feeling her usual icky self after the marathon so no pics for her. Maybe that's why she didn't care too much about me jumping in with the showgirls, she felt too crappy to care.

From Clay on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 15:49:56

Nice picture Jeff! Congrats to you and Meg on completing another Marathon, you guys are great

From Smooth on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:06:31

FUN picture!!! Were you wearing the VOF shirt? Sorry to hear Meg felt too crappy for posing. I have a picture of Meg talking to me after Spectrum. If I only knew how to post it. She definitely "out beauty" those showgirls, for sure!!! You LOOK GREAT and VERY SKINNY!!!

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:18:42

Smooth..If you want to email that pic I will post it. She definately does "out beauty" those show girls. It's just one of those things I had to do after running a marathon in Las Vegas. I had one guy comment on my bright orange shirt after the race telling me that he followed me for the whole race and that my shirt was easy to see in a crowd. I am sure sweetiepie would be happy to know that I did a little free advertising for her race.

I wish I was as skinny as I look in the picture. I am hiding my 15 pound spare tire very well.

From Smooth on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 16:44:53

Jeff, I don't have your email address. The PM on this blog doesn't have an attachment thingie, at least I didn't see one. I don't think the forum PM has one either, cause I tried to PM a picture to someone once. I want to learn how to post pic the way you do here anyway, so may be you can tell me how?

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 18:04:41

Smooth...I wasn't sure how to post pics on the blog until this morning either so I will do my best to explain.

First you start an account at photobucket.com. Then you upload the pictures you want to add to the blog. Once the pictures are uploaded on photobucket they show a "direct link" to the photo below the photo when you put your cursor over the picture. Copy that direct link/URL and then go to the blog. When you are in the blog adding one of your usual daily entries, one of the icons along the top part of the screen is titled "insert/modify image" (it looks like mountains with a sun), when you click on that it brings up a box titled "Insert Image", paste the URL that you copied above into the "image URL" box and click preview to make sure you got the right image or just click OK and it will paste it into your entry. That should do it. Good luck.

From Smooth on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 18:41:11

Jeff -- THANKS! You gave perfect instructions. Just posted the pic on my blog. FUN STUFF.

From Rhett on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 20:53:33

Jeff, it has been a crazy day today and I'm just getting around to reading your race report. Congrats on keeping the faith and going out there and getting 'er done. I'm glad to hear the calf held up well. I'm always amazed at how well the body usually responds when called upon. Great job!!!! How's the calf feeling now?

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 22:12:34

Rhett...the calf is doing amazingly well, like no pain at all. Can't really explain it.

From huans32 on Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 09:07:49

Well Jeff I am glad that you were able to do your race. That is amazing about your calf and no pain now. I guess you worked that knot out or whatever was wrong with it. And to run it with Meg that is the best part about it. It is so great that you were able to gutt it out and finish it. Great time.

From Smooth on Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 14:01:48

Jeff, how are you feeling today? Are you and Meg ready for a nice easy recovery run? I'm still thinking about your race. I keep singing "I believe in miracles" in my head. :)

From JeffC on Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 14:30:33

Smooth...we are both feeling better than expected today. My legs are ready for a recovery run but my foot with the blister is saying otherwise. I may need a couple more days for that thing to heal up well enough to run on again.

From solemate on Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 16:35:31

Awesome report. Thanks for posting it and congratulations to both of you - enjoy your recovery time!!!!

From Cal on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 21:49:55

Jeff congrats on your marathon. It reminded me a lot of my SGM experience. I'm happy for you being able to finish it!

From Smooth on Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 14:33:39

Jeff, how's the blister. Can you walk, jog, run on it? How's the recovery going? Can't wait to see you and Meg at Painter's.

From Snoqualmie on Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 14:16:27

Congratulations on getting it done!! You have a reservoir of strength you didn't even know about. Fun report - thanks.

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Finally decided to give the blistered foot a try today and didn't have much success.  Made it about a half a mile and then wimped out and walked the rest of the way.  Everything feels really good, only some slight lingering soreness.

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Felt miserable last night toward the end of work and for the rest of the evening.  Felt like a major cold coming on in the back of my throat and nose area.  Decided that being out running in the cold was probably not the best idea this morning so I stayed in bed and read a couple more chapters in Breaking Dawn.  Yes, I am almost done with the Twilight series.  Not really much of a "guy" type genre of books but Meg raved about them so I suffered through them and kinda enjoyed them for the most part.  I could do without all the "feminine" emotions, but the whole vampire and werewolf topic is kinda cool.  Anyway, I digress.....gotta get back to work.  Will give the foot and cold another try tomorrow.

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From Rhett on Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 17:44:46

Jeff, I'm glad to see you found some time to get in touch with your feminine side. Get well soon.

From JeffC on Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 17:57:02

Watch it Buster!! :)

From Teena on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 00:55:59

Oh Jeff ... picturing you sitting in bed reading those books makes me giggle a little!! You must be very secure!! :)

(you know I'm just joking with you, right? or am I?)

Hope you are having a wonderful evening.

From huans32 on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:45:34

LOL well you are taking that relaxing thing to the next level man. Reading a womans romance novel. WOW!!! I hope you get feeling better soon. Before we take your man card away.:)

From JeffC on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:12:14

Geeez!! Am I the only male in the world who is reading these books? What a freakin girl I am! :(

From Rhett on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:47:50

My wife has read the whole series, twice. I'm not as willing to bond with my wife through chic books as you are though. I think it is manly to read those so you can have another thing in common with your wife. I'm just not man enough to take the time to read those type of books. I'd much rather be reading spy and espionage (sp?) and cops and robbers and court drama and stuff.

From huans32 on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:27:18

Oh I like that kind of books/movies and such with vampires and werewolves. And enjoy more fantasy vs anything else. A little love story along with alot of action. But just straight love story hmm. Oh and rumor has it there is like 5 or 6 other guys out there that have read it and about 100 who have tried and couldnt make it through it. The rest aren't brave enough to admit it.

From JeffC on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:49:05

Hey there is actaully some action in these books, just not as much as I would like. But there is way to much romantic drama.....blaugh!

From DonGardinero on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:51:31

You guys crack me up!!!

From Kathie on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 13:16:36

I have read them just to know what my teenage daughter was reading. I thought they were too girly for me and I'm a girl (just in case you didn't know. My husband liked it when I read them though because it made me a little more romantic... is that more than you wanted to know?

From huans32 on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 13:24:03

Ah so even Kathie is reading them to get more in touch with that girlie side. Now see that is a good thing.:) Jeff its all cool as long as you dont pick up any new hobbies.

From Rhett on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 13:42:18

Kathie, that is great info. I'll have to encourage my wife to read them a third time. Now that you mention it, when she was reading them, my wife was more romantic than usual too. I didn't put it all together though. I just thought I was looking exceptionally good or something. LOL

From JeffC on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 13:46:18

Kathie?? Your a girl?? Geez and all this time it thought.......:)

I wasn't going to mention it but since Rhett did, I think this whole reading Twilight and becoming more romantic thing just might be true. Kathie, you are on to something here. Now when you go in for marriage counciling they will just have the couples read the Twilight series. :)

From Smooth on Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 13:31:32

:D :D :D :) :) :) You GIRLS and GIRLY GIRLS are so amusing and funny!!!

From Smooth on Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 15:08:04

How are you feeling now Jeff? Time to get off that romantic novels and get out there, don't you think? Hey, I wish we had your weather.

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Decided to take the rest of the week off with my cold.

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Still suffering from my cold.  Weather is too cold.  I'm a wimp.  Maybe I'll run after Christmas.

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Roads were frozen.  Wasn't running anyway.  Extra healing is really not a bad thing.  Still got a bit of a cold so may be another day or so before I run again.

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From Smooth on Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 15:20:23

I like your plan. I got a cold last year this time and didn't take care of it, ended up in the ER with the ugly broken nose as a result of two fainting episodes. Yeah, rest is good. Take good care of yourself and enjoy the holidays.

From Kathie on Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 15:30:45

smooth - Oh I remember that! Was that a year ago..boy time flies!

From DonGardinero on Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 15:40:25

A wise decision. Hope your starting to feel better.

From Rhett on Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 15:33:02

Don't you live in Vegas? You guys had ice up there? Did they close everything down? Get better soon.

From JeffC on Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 17:23:58

Rhett..Yes we live in Vegas and it snowed on Monday, enough to make a small snow man in the back yard and it is snowing again today and it's supposed to be more than Monday....go figure.

From Teena on Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 18:11:49

Take care of yourself Jeff!! (I'm with Kathie ... can hardly believe that was a year ago Smooth)

From DonGardinero on Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 02:51:19

Jeff...

have they closed down the city yet? I heard they had to divert flights to Salt Lake that were supposed to land in Vegas and then they shut down the airport.

Dale

From Smooth on Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 16:42:27

They better have good weather for the Las Vegas Bowl. Jeff, are you ready for Christmas? I'm not.

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Biggest snow storm to hit Vegas in 30 years!  Pretty much shut down the city.  Some areas of the city were hit worse than others but everyone saw some snow.  We got to leave work early which didn't help the rush hour traffic becuase everyone else left early too.  There wasn't much accumulation of snow on the roads in my part of town, just slush and gunk, couldn't even make my car fishtail.  But after spending a half an hour in Target we came out to a snow covered car, kinda cool.  The snow is pretty much melted today and it'll probably be 30 years before we see that again.

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Wow!! Four whole miles today!!  My cold is pretty much gone and I figured it was about time to start logging some miles.  Felt fairly well recovered going into this run but still had a few small aches and pains here and there from minor injuries that never seem to go away.  Had to stop once for a few seconds cause my chest started to hurt.  I think it was just some muscle tightness in my shoulders and chest from so many days off.  Felt fine after the stop.  Kept it nice and easy the whole way.  Felt good to be back at it again.

Time:  34:32  8:38/mile

NB 768 Miles: 4.00
Comments
From RivertonPaul on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:03:50

Keep that calf from acting up and don't push too hard too soon. Good job.

From huans32 on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:07:08

Great job getting out there. Hope your feeling better.

From Smooth on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:57:23

Glad you're getting over with the cold. A nice easy recovery run is always good, to "dejunk" the little aches and pains.

So the once-in-a-30 yr-snow-storm blew thru and now it's back to balmy weather? We'll be driving thru Vegas on Sunday on the way to Southern Calif. for a funeral. I hope the weather will be good. I love snow, but not driving in it.

From Kathie on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 13:17:26

So are you going to the Vegas bowl? Are you even a BYU fan, I can't remember.

Congrats on the four miles. I am sure you will be back to full strength soon.

From JeffC on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 13:40:18

Kathie..I am not a BYU fan (USU grad, not much to cheer about there) but I am planning on going to the game with my boys and our free tickets. My boss is a stake president and he got some free tickets from an annoynmous donor. Should be really freakin cold. May not make it past half time, but with free tickets, who cares.

Smooth...Aren't you coming to Vegas for the Las Vegas Bowl? If you and hubby need a place to stay on your way down or back from CA, just let me know, the door is always open.

From Smooth on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 13:47:37

Thanks Jeff for the kind offer. We are driving straight thru. All 7 of us squishing together for a 12 hr. drive on Sunday. Funeral on Monday and driving back on Tuesday.

I am so jealous of your Bowl tickets. We don't have cable so can't even catch it on ESPN. Oh well, too busy to watch it anyway. You'll have to tell us all about it. Dress warm, drink plenty of hot chocolates and stay for the whole game.

From DonGardinero on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:00:03

Jeff..

Glad to hear you're back on the road again. I think it's always hard starting back up after being off for so long, or even for just a few days. How's the weather down there?

Dale

From Rhett on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:12:39

I'm sure you'll be back to running without discomfort within a day or two. Those first couple weeks after a marthon are always tough for me. I don't know how those guys who did the Slam do it.

From Teena on Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 15:52:56

So glad you are back at it!! Can't imagine you not running!! :)

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Wow, two days in a row!  Before I get to far into today's entry, does anyone have a good recommendation for a good yoga DVD?  I've been thinking alot about doing some yoga as my cross training in the evenings and wanted some recommendations on ones people have tried.

Anyway, today went well.  Just kept it nice and easy again.  Temps continue to be pretty cold with the starting temp at 34o this morning but the winds were calm which made it very pleasant.  Almost felt a bit overdressed by the end.  I plan to keep the runs pretty simple for at least the next couple of weeks at least, or until the aches and pains start feeling better and I feel fully recovered from LVM.  Don't know for sure what that will do to my time at Painter's this year but I'm really not too worried about it.  At the worst I would get run with Meg again and that would be a great thing!

Time:  51:10  8:31/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 6.00
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From Kathie on Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 19:10:00

Hey I am glad to see want to start yoga. I don't have a DVD recommendation but I can tell you one not to buy "Yoga for beginners" by Gaiam. It is really way to basic even for a beginner (a lot of mountain pose which is just standing)anyway I think Teena likes AM/PM yoga by Gaiam but I have never tried it. There are some online yoga classes that you can download for free each day. I have not tried them for a year but I found that they took way to long to download but the classes were great. I think I found them by Googling "free yoga" I hope this helps.

From Clay on Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 19:51:59

Its good to see you running again Jeff! I hope you're recovering nicely from LVM, keep up the good work.

From Teena on Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 00:01:51

Hey Jeff,

Kathie is right, I love AM/PM Yoga by Rondey Yee (Smooth likes it as well). It's a great one to begin with. I have probably about 10 of Rodney Yee's DVDs and like them all. I think he is great. The nice thing about the AM/PM one is that the AM portion (which I do at night as well) is only about 17 minutes long and has some really great stretches for runners in it. I don't like the PM portion as much. Like I said though, I like all of his stuff. Some of it is easy, some advanced ... just read the back before you buy it. I get a lot of mine at Target.

From Cal on Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:51:54

You could check out the selection at the Library (try before you buy...)

Yodney Yee AM/PM is pretty good though.

From Teena on Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:53:48

Jeff,

Or ... you could just buy it and not wait ... you usually have to put Rodney's DVDs on hold because somebody else is using them. It's worth the $15.

From Teena on Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:56:01

(or you can wait!! I'm just messing with Cal ... I think I told him quite some time ago to try yoga, if I remember correctly he had to wait for quite some time for the library to get it. Could be wrong though.)

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:41:23

Thanks for the recommendations everyone, I will have to start looking around for Rodney's DVDs and give them a try.

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Almost didn't get up today.  Stayed up kinda late Sunday night and woke up without any motivation.  Layed in bed and wrestled with my decision for about 15 minutes and eventually got up.  I'm almost always glad I got up and ran, especially on days when I don't feel like it.  I'm glad I got up today because the weather was nice for winter.  Temp was 40o with a very light breeze, borderline short weather.  I really need a thermometer upstairs so I know the temp before I get all dressed up in my winter clothes.  That would be a good thing for Santa to bring....only three more sleeps.

Time:  50:32  8:25/mile

NB 768 Miles: 6.00
Comments
From huans on Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:16:26

Nice recovery run Jeff. Good to see your calves arent a issue for you anymore. I truly admire you for your dedication.

From Kathie on Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:01:31

Way to get out and run! I am the same way the runs you almost don't do are always the best! I hope Santa hurries as well I think he is going to bring me running tights and I need them!

From Rhett on Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:05:19

It was 49 this morning and I geared up in the tights, gloves, ear warmer head band and jacket. Good job getting up and getting it done.

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:40:20

Huans..ever since the marathon, my calf has been just fine, go figure?!?

Kathie..I am expecting some running tights as well, can't wait to try them out.

Rhett..If it were 49 here this morning I would have been in shorts and a long sleeve tech shirt, maybe with some gloves, but that's about it. Here's the breakdown: 40 or below - Bundle the heck up, 40-50 - shorts and a long sleeve shirt and maybe gloves, 50 and above shorts and tshirt. I hate running when I am all bundled up, even if I have to be a bit cold for the first mile or so.

From DonGardinero on Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 14:54:51

Jeff...

Glad you made it out the door. I wish it were 49 degrees here. It's been snowing like crazy all day.

Dale

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Picked up the pace just a little bit today because I had to hurry due to another late night and late start.  Got out in time to run with Meg for her last couple of miles and then had to finish the rest of mine solo.  Today's weather was a carbon copy of yesterday with the temp at 40o and very light if any wind.  I could certainly handle this kind of weather for the rest of the winter but I really doubt we will be so lucky.  Pretty much did a progression type run today with each mile increasing in speed with the last mile at about 7:50/mile.  Felt pretty good overall but am still dealing with the usual pains.  Might as well list them off for future reference:  Left hamstring always seems achy and tight, left hip, outside edge of left foot, and right hip.  The theme here is definatly some issues with the left leg but nothing bad enough to keep me from running.  This is the kind of stuff that I hope to stregthen/cure with some yoga and easier running for a while.  Hopefully I see some progress.  Only two more days until Christmas and I think we are finally all set, that has to be a first.

Time:  48:41  8:07/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 6.00
Comments
From RivertonPaul on Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:12:06

I agree that it is a good time to cross train, and to think long term health.

From Rhett on Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 14:11:22

Get that leg better. Nice progression run. Glad it's not so bad you can't run.

From DonGardinero on Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 20:41:33

Great job Jeff. Probably a good idea to write down all the aches and pains.

Dale

From Kathie on Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 14:47:49

I hope the yoga helps I know it did for me. I always had pain of some sort in my right leg and now for the most part I run pain free. I think my problem was that I ran with my right hip slightly behind my left and it would tweak my whole leg. Yoga has seemed to "square" me up and the pain is gone!

From Teena on Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 19:18:14

Merry Christmas to you and Meg!

From Smooth on Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 23:28:21

Jeff, we thought about you as we drove by Las Vegas. Boy, the traffic was slow and heavy both ways on Sunday and Wednesday. Hope you had a great Christmas and your leg is behaving.

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Finally got back out on the road again today and felt pretty good.  Tried out the new running tights although according to the tag they are golfing pants.....what the???  Anyway, they kept me nice and toasty and I loved running in them much more than my baggy old sweats.  Took it pretty easy today and will continue to do so until everything feels better.  After the run today Meg and I did the PM version of the AM/PM Yoga disc.  This was my second time doing it since we got the disc for Christmas.  I would like to make it a twice a day thing, we'll see how that goes.  No real results to post about how yoga is helping me or not helping me, need to give it a couple of weeks to see how it goes.  I have enjoyed it both times I have done it and I like the way it makes me feel.  I am not very flexible at all so I hope to see some improvement in that area as a result.  Christmas was good, the break from running was good, now it is time to get back to work again.  Temp was 34 today and no wind, pretty dang good running conditions.

Time:  51:04  8:31/mile

NB 768 Miles: 6.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:08:27

Jeff...

Glad the Running "golfing" tights worked out for you. Wow, I think it's actually warmer up here than it is down there.

Dale

From Clay on Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:30:44

Nice job of getting out today Jeff, let me know how the yoga goes and if it makes a difference. I would be interested in the results.

From huans32 on Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:45:49

Nice run Jeff. Starting to get a bit chilly down there. You guys get any snow??

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 13:09:56

Dale...ya it's pretty clear and pretty cool down hear but there is no snow and the only ice in the streets is from people sprinklers draining down the gutters. The highs during the day get into the mid 50s so it's not too bad.

Clay...I'm sure I will post the yoga results on the blog here. I'm hopeful I will see some good results.

Mark...No snow, just cold. This is probably as cold as we will see this winter....if we're lucky.

From Kathie on Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 14:58:01

Jeff I am glad to see the running tight work for you. Did you really get them to run in the "freezing" temps of Vegas or are they for painters :)

From rhett on Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 17:32:05

Golf tights??? I'd love to see you out golfing in those. I'm sure you would be quite the side show. I love my running tights, but my non-running friends tend to give me a hard time about wearing them..., even though I only wear them running.

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 17:50:00

Kathie...I will be using the tights until at least the end of February when it starts to warm up again.

Rhett...They don't look like any golf pants I've ever seen, they just look like running tights. Most of my running is done in the dark and before anyone is awake so I don't have anyone that will make fun of me. At painter's I will wear running shorts over them so I don't gross anyone out.....:)

From Smooth on Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 00:49:13

Glad you're trying the AM/PM yoga. I couldn't get my hubby to do it with me. He'd tried and laughed out loud and would get up to eat a bowl of cereal instead, and that's in the evening. Silly!

C'mon, boys/men wear running tights. They are very fashionable. Don't you worry about grossing anyone out.

From Mark on Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:08:18

Glad to see you starting back up again. Definitely stick with the yoga. It helps me out when I actually do it. It will really help to loosen you up and hopefully make you more injury proof.

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Another 6 miles and another session of Yoga this morning.  I like the fact that it's only about a 20 minute session of yoga, still leaves me plenty of time to get ready for work.  I am finding out just how tight I really am when I do these yoga session.  I really can't stretch like the instructor, maybe someday.  Temp was warmer than yesterday at 40o with a slight breeze from the north.  Had to shed the stocking cap for the last couple of miles cause it was too warm. 

Time:  50:18  8:23/mile

NB 768 Old Miles: 6.00
Comments
From Dave S on Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:27:09

Sounds like nice weather. Yoga would probably do me some good too. I am not very limber either.

From Rhett on Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 13:59:23

If you ever become as flexible as the instructor, I think it is mandatory to become a Yoga Master. Nice run.

From Kathie on Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 14:37:53

glad to see you are keeping up with the yoga does Meg do it with you?

From DonGardinero on Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 14:49:20

Another nice workout. I really need to get into yoga.

From JeffC on Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 15:39:35

Kathie...yes she does and she is so much better at it than I am.

Dale...I really need to get into yoga too, I hope it helps my ailing body.

From Smooth on Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 01:00:14

The only yoga pose I "mastered" is the "recline mountain pose". I almost fell asleep doing it.:)

Teena and Kathie, don't even think about having a yoga contest.

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Last run of 2008!  Happy New Year everyone!  Hope you all have a great new year celebration and more importantly a great new year of running with new goals and lots of new PRs. 

Last day of 2008 was a beautiful day for a run, temp was 38o and there was no wind.  One house in our neighborhood has the music and lights display and they have had it going the last couple of mornings.  I guess they went to bed and forgot to unplug the lights.  I wonder what the neighbors think with the music and lights going all night.  Anyway, it was kinda fun to run past the house several times with Christmas tunes going and lights a flashin.  Only a few more days of this Christmasy stuff, so enjoy it while it lasts I guess.  Meg and I did 5-6 striders of about .1 miles each at about 7:15 pace.  Felt pretty good to stretch out the legs a bit and push the old body again.  Came home and did the PM yoga workout again.  That makes 3 days in a row.....woo hoo!!  I still don't think there is ever a chance that I will be able to bend over and rest my head on my shin.......ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!

Man I have packed on the weight this holiday season.  Unfortuantely I will have to make weight loss one of my new years resolutions.....again.  I really need to shed 15-20 pounds of belly fat that I can never seem to shake.  My goal weight would be 165 and I am at 180 now so......here we go again.  Unfortunately for me, this won't stop me from eating all the good new years eve food tonight, I am so weak.

Time:  49:02  8:10/mile

NB 768 Miles: 6.00
Comments
From Eric Day on Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:31:55

Happy New Year Jeff.

What better way to end a year than with a nice run!

Best of luck for 2009!

From Kathie on Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 14:58:05

Jeff I am with you on the weight loss issue. I wanted to be 10 pounds lighter for painters... not going to happen I just hope I am not 5 pounds heavier!

From DonGardinero on Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 15:47:37

Great job Jeff. How much weight do you think you've put on? Somehow, I don't know how, but I've managed to keep my weight around 182-183. I was hoping to be at 175 for Painter's but I don't see it happening.

Dale

From Clay on Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 19:06:02

I here ya dude about the extra weight, I'm carrying around about 10 extra pounds and I have no will power right now!!! Happy New Year Jeff and keep working hard...

From Dave S on Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 19:08:09

Jeff, I hear you on the holiday pounds. It's amazing how quick you can pick up an extra 5. Oh well it only comes once a year.

From Teena on Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 10:45:39

Happy New Year to you, Meg, and the kids!!

2009 is your year Jeff!!

From Smooth on Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 00:18:06

Jeff, great way to celebrate the end of the year with a great run with Meg. Hey, don't stress over the weight. I have a spare tire in the middle that I can never get rid of no matter how much crunches or yoga I do. I stop weighing myself during the holidays, I eat too much and gain a pound a day. After the holidays I am going to eat healthy again...starting Jan 2...may be...okay at least by Jan 5.

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NB 768 Old Miles: 171.10NB 768 Old Miles: 59.00Saucony A2 Miles: 22.00NB 768 Miles: 72.20
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